Second question. What is force design?Force design is changing BIGLY. Just Google Marine Corps force design and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Depending on who you ask, attack helicopters are going away, too. It’s really quite interesting.
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Second question. What is force design?
Never did understand why the USMC had heavy tanks, for what is to be a mobile amphibious force. I would think something like a 551 Sheridan light tank would be more appropriate for them than M-1 Abrams tanks.
Then again, doctrinally, the USMC has been being utilized like the US Army for the entirety of the OIF and OEF operations, instead of how it’s supposed to be utilized.
Effectively nothing short of Abrams is survivable in combat with anything mid/late model T-72 or better. Also with the proliferation of ATGMs and the terrible effects they have on even the best modern Armor, going lighter is suicide.
M60 was obsolete as anything other than a mobile gun platform for reducing fires. There is a reason the Marine charge into Kuwait during Desert Storm was actually led in by an Army Armor Regiment (1 Bde, 2 ARDiv). Nobody thought much of M60 then, much less now (no matter what the Israelis do to it).
M855 just flat didn’t work at all like it was supposed to. That’s why they sent most of them out to play OPFOR for the end of their lives.
Effectively there was no other Armor vehicle to pick because anything would either be too light to be useful/survivable or require a whole ground up design of a new vehicle which the Marine Corp could never afford and would never prioritize with M1A2s there for the taking.
Effectively nothing short of Abrams is survivable in combat with anything mid/late model T-72 or better. Also with the proliferation of ATGMs and the terrible effects they have on even the best modern Armor, going lighter is suicide.
M60 was obsolete as anything other than a mobile gun platform for reducing fires. There is a reason the Marine charge into Kuwait during Desert Storm was actually led in by an Army Armor Regiment (1 Bde, 2 ARDiv). Nobody thought much of M60 then, much less now (no matter what the Israelis do to it).
M855 just flat didn’t work at all like it was supposed to. That’s why they sent most of them out to play OPFOR for the end of their lives.
Effectively there was no other Armor vehicle to pick because anything would either be too light to be useful/survivable or require a whole ground up design of a new vehicle which the Marine Corp could never afford and would never prioritize with M1A2s there for the taking.
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American troops haven’t been attacked from the air since Korea, I believe.
I fail to see how an Abrams would have prevented this!USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia
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Don’t worry, as said above it’ll change in a year or two, and a bunch of companies will make hundreds of millions of dollars equipping whatever shiny new thing the next strategy requires.
Never did understand why the USMC had heavy tanks, for what is to be a mobile amphibious force. I would think something like a 551 Sheridan light tank would be more appropriate for them than M-1 Abrams tanks.
Then again, doctrinally, the USMC has been being utilized like the US Army for the entirety of the OIF and OEF operations, instead of how it’s supposed to be utilized.
There's no money in Tanks anymore.Just came across a YouTube video that says the USMC is disbanding it’s tank battalions. Wassup w that?
There's no money in Tanks anymore.
"We fight today's war of known unknowns with yesterday's unkown known resources"... or some similar nonsense that sounds real smart when stated by a dude making bank... a dude who, while looking good in a suit, missed the global emergence of Covid-19 back in January and February and even early March.
I mean, whoever came up with this isn't wrong... just many decades late. He'll probably get a medal anyway... then "retire" and go work for a consulting firm.
Follow the money.