USAIR and Freq. Flyer

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Do turbine engines even have mags.

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Nope, They have ignitors. These are basicly sparkplugs that are on durring engine start (and durring heavy rain). Once the burners in the combustion section are burning the flame never stops, just like a gas stove.
 
In defense of FF miles....

Remember that the credit card miles that you earn from that loaf of bread don't count towards "base" miles for elite status. For instance I have a gazillion miles with almost every airline out there since I travel for work every week but when it gets to be the beginning of December, I start trolling the 'net for cheapie quickie fares cross country if I haven't made my status on an airline. So unless you have those coveted "base" or actual flown miles, the loaf of bread miles don't mean squat until you collect around 20k of them for a free ticket to Sioux Falls at noon on a Wednesday.

Also remember that when TWA went bye-bye they converted their miles on a 1:1 basis to American. I think you'll be OK with USAir, but you could always book your ticket now for the end of the year and hope for the best.

Good luck
 
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Also remember that when TWA went bye-bye they converted their miles on a 1:1 basis to American. I think you'll be OK with USAir

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Thats true if USAir gets bought by another carrier. But who has the cash to do that. I think that it will be more like PamAm, and Eastern where one part gets bought by Delta, one part by American, etc. Dont know who would buy the FF program, other then try to get the PAX to fly on their airline.

I wonder if any of the low-fare carriers would be interested in US Air?
 
No-one with an ounce of intelligence will buy US Airways as an operating entity. Everyone will wait for the liquidation sale, as no-one wants to deal with their very senior employee groups.

Independence Air, America West, jetBlue, Virgin ... all will probably eye the Airbusi. America West might also take the 757s, which are very similar to theirs. The 767s ... Coca Cola factory, same with the 737s. A330s ... any of a number of carriers.
 
Agree. US Airways will either survive, or be split up Pan Am style. Routes will go one way, planes will go the other. It'll be like a garage sale for airlines. If they start selling of some of their stuff now, they could probably delay the inevitable for a little longer.
 
I wonder if Southwest Airlines' move to PHL in May had anything to do with worsening the then-recovering USAirways' situation?
 
It sucks about US Air b/c I really enjoy flying them out of MHT. I fly them a lot for work and I was CP two years in a row with them. Then they hit bankruptcy post 9/11 and I didn't lose a single mile. If they go Chapter 7 then you're screwed.

I'm going to have to stop reading just the subject lines of the posts b/c I'm missing some good stuff. The stories in this one were great.
 
It hasn't helped. When you're an airline dealing with a lack of revenue, then you cut your fares to match / undercut Southwest ... yeah, something there just will not add up.

But, alas, it is the employees fault and they need to give more so the new CEO can also get a $5 million golden parachute. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif
 
I think the US Airways business model is just plain broken. This is a perfect example of what is wrong with corporate America these days. They took two perfectly good airlines and merged them together without thinking it through, just so that they could get bigger. And the merger created an airline with four hubs within an hours flight of each other and no west coast presence to speak of.

Not smart. Did not make sense. And now you're seeing the results of poor management decisions.
 
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I wonder if Southwest Airlines' move to PHL in May had anything to do with worsening the then-recovering USAirways' situation?

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Survival of the fittest.....

Sorry, C, you haven't met me yet - I'm the local Southwest fan!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I think the US Airways business model is just plain broken. This is a perfect example of what is wrong with corporate America these days. They took two perfectly good airlines and merged them together without thinking it through, just so that they could get bigger. And the merger created an airline with four hubs within an hours flight of each other and no west coast presence to speak of.

Not smart. Did not make sense. And now you're seeing the results of poor management decisions.

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They took three airlines and merged them. They also bought PSA to get a west coast presence. They couldn't make money out there, as many airlines have found. They shuttered the PSA operation in favor of the high-yield east coast. There big problems started when there was no longer any high yield markets.
 
You're right! I forgot all about PSA!

As did the folks who put US Airways together, so I guess I can't be blamed too much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buck.gif
 
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As did the folks who put US Airways together, so I guess I can't be blamed too much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buck.gif

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Man, do I remember PSA !!!! They were just about there with Southwest....but not quite! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Ahh, the goog old days!

PSA with the smile-faced airplanes.

WestAir had BAe-146's flying from FAT to SFO

Western Airlines with the "Wally Bird" commercials (still have a "Wally Bird" t-shirt! of course, it's a children's medium)

AirCal -- who could forget AirCal? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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