UPS MD-11 crash at SDF

It's such a cool airplane, glad to see it back in the air. Not sure exactly how all of the wheels (and dollars) work for it to make sense, but I doubt they'd be doing it if it didn't.

I confess that I'm also a little bit happy because I think it's going to put Brown's "emergency" contract-lift after their "voluntary-we-were-totally-planning-this" retirement of the MD in a very dubious spot.
 
mikecweb said:
Good to see her flying again. Will miss the greatest airplane I've ever flown.
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Dang dude, I didn’t know you went to something else. Sorry, I know you loved it!

I never flew it, but a FDX MD-11 was the first offline jumpseat I ever took when I was a brand new Brasilia FO. I’ll never forget how amazing that was, a takeoff out of LAX on a badass airplane.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Dang dude, I didn’t know you went to something else. Sorry, I know you loved it!

I never flew it, but a FDX MD-11 was the first offline jumpseat I ever took when I was a brand new Brasilia FO. I’ll never forget how amazing that was, a takeoff out of LAX on a badass airplane.
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My first FedEx offline jumpseat was an MD-10-10. I remember thinking how cool it was...albeit it slightly underpowered.

I remember the FO turning around to me and saying, "Kinda makes you feel like you're at home. We're climbing like an RJ!", whilst we were doing about 900'/min in the 30s up to cruise. I just smiled and said, "Yeah, but the difference is that you're still doing .83!"
 
GypsyPilot said:
Dang dude, I didn’t know you went to something else. Sorry, I know you loved it!

I never flew it, but a FDX MD-11 was the first offline jumpseat I ever took when I was a brand new Brasilia FO. I’ll never forget how amazing that was, a takeoff out of LAX on a badass airpla
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Yea the -72 captains in 5 months was hard to overcome.
 
DE727UPS said:
From what I've heard, there was a service letter (not sure that's the proper name) that Fedex complied with that UPS didn't comply with due to cost or they just didn't think it was important. UPS tends to not do things unless the FAA mandates it (think part 117 or that UPS kept flying the jet for days after this crash until the FAA grounded the fleet). Fedex had an improved gizmo installed that wasn't mandated by the FAA, it was just a suggestion from Boeing. My understanding was that it wasn't strongly pushed by Boeing, either. If you own a small plane, part 91, do you just do the AD's or do you do service letters, too? Of course, airlines are held to a higher standard than my Cherokee, but I must admit that I don't follow service letters.
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ADs are always required. Service bulletins are optional for Part 91, in the US at least.
 
Richman said:
ADs are always required. Service bulletins are optional for Part 91, in the US at least.
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In my 135 world ADs and SBs are always complied with, quite often it's just a paperwork exercise to verify part and serial numbers of components installed. Sometimes you have to go and physically verify the numbers and that's fine, it's part of the job, but normally looking through the logs (the actual books not the computer) can verify whether or not any further action is required or if it's N/A and never gets past my desk and onto the floor.
 
Just wanted to reach out to my fellow IPA’ers to let you all know that if you an ear after the next two days I’ll be here, especially after reading the CVR transcript. Not sure how I’ll feel reading the final moments of a friend and colleague’s but hopefully we’ll gain clarity and some unity (we need it) as a pilot group.
 
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