UPS and Fedex travel benefits

If you're flying alone, I don't think Nonreving is that bad... back when I worked for US Airways, based in Vegas (notoriously bad to nonrev) I flew on average at least one RT a week or two and only got stranded one time... and that was weather related, and the revenue pax were in the exact same boat. I ended up renting the car and just driving from Vegas to LA.

It's all a matter of planning. Just a few places I flew to in 9 months: LAX/BUR/ONT (at least 3-4 times a month), San Diego, San Francisco, Chicago, NYC (multiple times), London UK, Manchester UK, Paris, Bangkok, Tokyo, Austin, Hawaii...

I always had a Southwest nonrev ticket in my suitcase ready to go incase I got bumped on a US flight... and ZED tickets are a godsend if you're traveling overseas.

If you're travelling alone, you can just jumpseat, on or offline, to anywhere. Total non-issue.
 
What about eating and resting while on long international trips? I know Doug was in Business Class seat with a several course meal on his break. What do the cargo pilots do? Bring their own food? Cook themselves?

On International, we get a menu that we submit in advance, and order what we like. It's the same food that is used for 1st class on the pax carriers, except not on pretty plates! (oh, sticking it in the oven is just so difficult!).

As for rest, I get a LOT more rest in our courier area, or bunks, than I ever have deadheading 1st class, particularly on a domestic airline!
 
$50k-$100k+ extra/yr can buy a LOT of POSITIVE SPACE first class tickets...

But I question how long the cargo airlines are going to be ahead of the majors in pay. It can only get better from what they are today. I found a old Delta payscale and that was extremely good. It beat even UPS and Fedex's current contract by far. Then again with cargo there maybe more job security.

On International, we get a menu that we submit in advance, and order what we like. It's the same food that is used for 1st class on the pax carriers, except not on pretty plates! (oh, sticking it in the oven is just so difficult!).

As for rest, I get a LOT more rest in our courier area, or bunks, than I ever have deadheading 1st class, particularly on a domestic airline!

Sounds good, I have a better understanding now of how the cargo long haul world works now. Thanks. Oh one more question, when you are deadheading or jumpseating if there is an available first class seat they give it to you? If they do does it matter if you're offline or online? For example I fly for Fedex and want to go from San Francisco to Sydney and there is a first class seat open.

Especially when a first class round trip ticket from San Francisco to Sydney only costs $20,000.
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As long as we keep beating the feds down whenever they want to relax cabotage laws, we'll be ok.

The next yahoo that says "Hey! Let's let Air China cargo compete in the US domestic market!" or "Legacies and LCC's are dinosaurs, lets get Ryan and EasyJet to compete here!" we're universally hosed.

Vote accordingly.
 
As long as we keep beating the feds down whenever they want to relax cabotage laws, we'll be ok.

The next yahoo that says "Hey! Let's let Air China cargo compete in the US domestic market!" or "Legacies and LCC's are dinosaurs, lets get Ryan and EasyJet to compete here!" we're universally hosed.

Vote accordingly.

Exactly!!!!

As for pass travel bennies, in my experience jumpseating domestically is awesome--I've rarely not gotten on a flight with having the cockpit as an option. However as far as traveling with family or friends pass benefits can be awesome, but more often than not they are a huge headache. I've had family and friends stuck in random hotels all over the country--wondering if they'd ever talk to me again (I think my sister wouldn't return calls for about a week once after a bad experience). However, I've had very good luck on my own. Went to Oslo last weekend and in the past six months I've also been to Hawaii, Australia, Tel Aviv, Puerto Rico, and Paris and almost all in first/business class--sometimes picking destinations just because there are open seats. It's a great benefit, but its scope is very limited.
 
But I question how long the cargo airlines are going to be ahead of the majors in pay. It can only get better from what they are today. I found a old Delta payscale and that was extremely good. It beat even UPS and Fedex's current contract by far. Then again with cargo there maybe more job security.

Sounds good, I have a better understanding now of how the cargo long haul world works now. Thanks. Oh one more question, when you are deadheading or jumpseating if there is an available first class seat they give it to you? If they do does it matter if you're offline or online? For example I fly for Fedex and want to go from San Francisco to Sydney and there is a first class seat open.

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Much more job security. Another factor to consider is what you're flying. The majority of FedEx pilots fly widebody aircraft. How many 777 Captains does Delta have, total? Looking at those top-end payrates is a bit deceptive when considering career earnings at a company where a large percentage of the pilots will never see widebody captain at all.

Deadheading, the company buys our tickets, and those are 1st class if the flight segment is long enough or has met other contractual triggers (which means most International flights except some short hops between cities in Europe or Asia, pretty much, and a lot of domestic legs as well). Jumpseating, just depends on available seats.
 
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