Upgrade at the Majors

Bill is a '99 hire at DL with no upgrade in sight anytime soon. He could international F/O out of NY, but he's not willing to commute and be fairly junior reserve for it.
 
You can look on apc under "most junior captain hired:" date.

I know a 1990 AA hire that hasn't upgraded and can't even hold a line on the 777. Yeowzah!

i think USAir was the worst. 20+

swa is around 8 now methinks

I've heard that people are holding 73 captain at CAL after like 3 years?!
 
frog_flyer said:
.....I've heard that people are holding 73 captain at CAL after like 3 years?!
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Don't know about that............I've got a good friend at CAL on the 73 in EWR. He's been there for 8-9 years and is still sitting right seat.

Now w/ all the projected retirements coming in the next decade at CAL, who knows....the upgrades could come alot faster.
 
lance capt. @ swa is around 5-6 years right now depending on the base, I hear

full blood cappy's range from 7 years to 12 years depending on base
 
Right now scheduling's speed dial for a reserve 737 CA at Continental was hired 5/13/98. the last Line holder is from 8/97.

According to the latest bid effective June '07 the most junior is a 2/6/01 new hire. EWR is the junior base there.
 
meritflyer said:
What is the "typical" upgrade time at major airlines such as DAL, SW, Continental, ect..?
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"Typical" when? Today? In 1968? In the future? No way to quantify. All the answers you have are based on what is happening right now. At FedEx now it is currently about 4 years.

The answer to this is that "Past Performance is No Guarantee of Future Results."
 
now say you work for a legacy and got hired in the late 90's. you have been flying around the united states and have a home base that is easy commute or even in your home town, now how hard is it to say move locations and fly internationally? now is it hard to get international routes or is a better lifestyle to stay intercontinental? this may be too vague but all responses are greatly appreciated.
 
meritflyer said:
What is the "typical" upgrade time at major airlines such as DAL, SW, Continental, ect..?
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The most important information you can get in regards to upgrades at any carrier you intend to work for is; when YOU will be half way up their list. To do that you would need to know the attrition rate of those above you on the list ( i.e. age 60 retirements ) and the realistic growth of the airline.

Two 5000 pilot airlines could have vastly different times to get to the mid-way point of the seniority list. One may be relatively new and have recently undergone a massive expansion ( SWA? ). One may be older and have many age 60 retirements in the future ( CAL? ).

The time to upgrade should be considered, but if it is a matter of just a few years difference one should choose the more stable company with better long term prospects for success.


Typhoonpilot
 
Flux.

That's pretty much the best answer.

By the time any of you get there, it WILL be shorter or it WILL be longer so don't even waste brain cells even thinking about it.

It might be short when you get there, but it might get longer as you progress along the seniority list.

I could hold 737 CA my third year. But then I couldn't. But then I almost got close again to MD-88 CA, and then 9/11 hit, then it went far, far away. Now I'm about 400 numbers off of MD-88 CA again.. And so on and so on.

Personally? I wouldn't even worry about it because it's always a fluxuating number and people get all wrapped around the axle looking for reliable constants in a highly dynamic industry.
 
Well, my father is at 17 years at US, and he hasn't had an upgrade yet.

...Of course, he doesn't even have enough seniority to hold a flying position... :insane: :nana2:
 
But it's "Ewesssair's" on the radio!

Like TWA was "Tee-dub'yay"
 
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