Unprecedented Movement at Southernjets

Trip7

Trip7

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NYC 320 Capt is at 1 year 9 months
LAX 737 Capt is at 2 years 10 months
NYC 737 Capt is at 2 years 4 months
LAX 717 Capt is at 2 years 7 months
NYC 717 Capt is at 1 year 3 months
ATL M88 Capt is at 4 months

NYC 767-400 FO is at 10 months
DTW 350 FO is at 9 years 7 months
LAX 777 FO is at 2 years 6 months

What a time to be an airline pilot
 
I don't think I'll be lucky enough to make it there in the next five years but how senior is MSP? I know it's senior but how many years to get in even as an FO?
 
Apparently ATL88A actually went to someone in indoc but they decided to draw the line a few months above it and kinda said 'that's enough.' It makes sense; not all 88A spots were filled.

Indoc.
 
JordanD said:
NYC must be awful in every category
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I could be way off on this assumption but here it goes...

I think NYC is so junior because it is a lousy place to live and raise a family. The CoL is way high, the traffic is horrible and the rush of the city and surrounding suburbs is not linear with most people's way of life. So most who are based in NYC commute, which at times can be a tricky commute especially if you're based in NYC which entails multiple airports in the vicinity. If the goal is to live in base once at a major, I'm guessing NYC is not a popular base on that logic. Again, I could be way off. I know @Cherokee_Cruiser lives in the area and probably would provide a rebuttal to this post.
 
JDean3204 said:
I could be way off on this assumption but here it goes...

I think NYC is so junior because it is a lousy place to live and raise a family. The CoL is way high, the traffic is horrible and the rush of the city and surrounding suburbs is not linear with most people's way of life. So most who are based in NYC commute, which at times can be a tricky commute especially if you're based in NYC which entails multiple airports in the vicinity. If the goal is to live in base once at a major, I'm guessing NYC is not a popular base on that logic. Again, I could be way off. I know @Cherokee_Cruiser lives in the area and probably would provide a rebuttal to this post.
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There's lots of people who have lived in the NY Metro area (or reasonable commuting distance from it) for years and have established lives that are a good fit with all the things you just mentioned. A job based in NYC is a great thing for them. I know @sorrygottarunway is missing his malasadas, but happy that he's living in the Big City again, and I'm sure, even though @Rocketman99 likes his new gig, he'd be happy if they had a NYC base with good seniority. That's the great thing about this industry... there's something for everyone.
 
BobDDuck said:
There's lots of people who have lived in the NY Metro area (or reasonable commuting distance from it) for years and have established lives that are a good fit with all the things you just mentioned. A job based in NYC is a great thing for them. I know @sorrygottarunway is missing his malasadas, but happy that he's living in the Big City again, and I'm sure, even though @Rocketman99 likes his new gig, he'd be happy if they had a NYC base with good seniority. That's the great thing about this industry... there's something for everyone.
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If things don't pan out in SEA (according to some people here #AlaskaiswinninginSEA) we are moving to NY to be close to the in laws and drive to NYC. I would have no issues with that either, I like it out there outside of the city.
 
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BobDDuck said:
There's lots of people who have lived in the NY Metro area (or reasonable commuting distance from it) for years and have established lives that are a good fit with all the things you just mentioned. A job based in NYC is a great thing for them. I know @sorrygottarunway is missing his malasadas, but happy that he's living in the Big City again, and I'm sure, even though @Rocketman99 likes his new gig, he'd be happy if they had a NYC base with good seniority. That's the great thing about this industry... there's something for everyone.
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I guess I'm just a Biased west coast guy. I lived in Virginia for a while which wasn't bad, but every time I'd head north to New York I couldn't believe how crazy it was up there..

Now if my dream gig called and said my only option was NYC, the wife better get used to thin pizza and traffic at all hours :D

Maybe "lousy place" was too harsh, it just doesn't seem like a laid back area at all, everyone seems so angry and rushed all the time
 
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So if I'm to understand what I'm reading....

Those are the total amount of time average in service at that airline before you reach enough seniority to expect to receive that job/position? Like after 1 year and 9 months you can get to be an FO on Jet XXX out of KXXX?


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It's not average by any stretch. But yes, those numbers appear to be upgrade times at big D.

Time in grade, if you will.
 
Nark said:
It's not average by any stretch. But yes, those numbers appear to be upgrade times at big D.

Time in grade, if you will.
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So prior to those times it's what exactly? Whatever the company tells you? Shut up and eat your sandwich?
 
My airline is about 3 years. Prior to this perhaps ~10+ years. Just guessing. You are nothing more than a number. It's great.
 
Nick said:
Apparently ATL88A actually went to someone in indoc but they decided to draw the line a few months above it and kinda said 'that's enough.' It makes sense; not all 88A spots were filled.

Indoc.
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Makes sense as I saw several junior NYC MD88 FOs displaced to ATL MD88 Captain.
 
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