University/College degrees?

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Fubar

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Which degrees do major airlines look for? Reading jetcareers.com, Doug keeps saying "Non-engineering aviation" or something to that extent. I live in Canada and I find a bunch of either:

1. Aerospace engineering (BEng)
2. Aerospace science and engineering (BSc)

Would taking those courses allow me to be "considered" by the major airlines, or do I have to take something like Aeronautical Science. I read somewhere that the degree doesn't matter, as long as it's related. Is this true?

(Sorry for all the questions :D)

- Fubar
 
I am betting the regionals like people with aviation degrees because they know that you will not leave them since you can't use that degree to get any other job in the real world. They probably don't even mind if you don't have a degree anyway since the HS diploma isn't going to help you get a better job either. They want people who they can keep for a long time.

I think Major airlines just want to see the box checked as a way to weed people out.

I could be wrong about both statements though...
 
But is Aerospace aviation or is it like all NASA and "space" well, you know what i'm getting at. None of the Canadian universities have any aviation degrees so I was also wondering if they consider the level of education also (College vs University)
 
Fubar said:
But is Aerospace aviation or is it like all NASA and "space" well, you know what i'm getting at. None of the Canadian universities have any aviation degrees so I was also wondering if they consider the level of education also (College vs University)
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Isn't an University just a group of colleges?
 
BCTAv8r said:
Isn't an University just a group of colleges?
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Well I learned in Careers class that College is more "hands-on" whereas University is more "by-the-book learning" or something to that extent
 
As I said, I'm from Canada. On that site, we see:

In Canada a University is an education insitution that can grant degrees. (BA, BSc, MA, PHd, etc). Colleges can grant certificates or diplomas, but not degrees.

Which technically means that Colleges in Canada are the U.S. equivalent to Community College
 
Fubar said:
As I said, I'm from Canada. On that site, we see:

In Canada a University is an education insitution that can grant degrees. (BA, BSc, MA, PHd, etc). Colleges can grant certificates or diplomas, but not degrees.

Which technically means that Colleges in Canada are the U.S. equivalent to Community College
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Community colleges here in the U.S can grant associates degrees.
 
But bachelor degrees are preferred over associate degrees right? But back to my other question, would Aerospace Science be ok for aviation or do I need something like Aviation _____ or Aeronautical _____
 
Fubar said:
But bachelor degrees are preferred over associate degrees right? But back to my other question, would Aerospace Science be ok for aviation or do I need something like Aviation _____ or Aeronautical _____
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Yes, a bachelors is required. Don't stress on what your gonna major in for the airlines. Frankly, they don't care. Just major in something that can do you good in case you decide to exit the industry or are furloughed.
 
Fubar said:
Which technically means that Colleges in Canada are the U.S. equivalent to Community College
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You're correct, Fubar. In Canada, you guys refer to Colleges and Universities a bit differently than we do here. What you guys call "college", we call a "Community College", or "2-Year College". What you guys refer to as "University", we call "College", "University" or "4-Year College". Our community colleges have two purposes. One, they provide a great many general education requirements that can be transferred to a 4-year school. You can save alot of money by going to a CC!! Two, they provide alot of vocational training - welding, auto MX, etc. Trade schools, if I may.

Here in the U.S. a university will consist of several colleges - each college being nothing more than a large department that focuses on a specific discipline. That's what Brian is refering to.

So, take Rollins College - they can grant a 4-Year degree just as easily as Middle Tennessee State University. However, Lenoir Community College can NOT.

Make sense?
 
Yes, I understand. What I don't understand is if Aerospace Science and Engineering is considered Aviation or if it's considered Space as in NASA
 
BCTAv8r said:
Yes, a bachelors is required. Don't stress on what your gonna major in for the airlines. Frankly, they don't care. Just major in something that can do you good in case you decide to exit the industry or are furloughed.
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Nicely said Brian! :nana2:
 
Fubar said:
Yes, I understand. What I don't understand is if Aerospace Science and Engineering is considered Aviation or if it's considered Space as in NASA
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it's considered Aviation but can help you gain access to the space industry...the space industry does not actually have any degrees associated with it - like you can't enroll in a university space program or obtain a "space" degree.. but aviation will help you get there if that's what your wanting to do?

I think aeronautical engineering gives you better access to the NASA program than any other degree out there.
 
Timbuff10 said:
I am betting the regionals like people with aviation degrees because they know that you will not leave them since you can't use that degree to get any other job in the real world. They probably don't even mind if you don't have a degree anyway since the HS diploma isn't going to help you get a better job either... I could be wrong about both statements though...
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I think you are incorrect regarding any "aviation" degree. Believe it or not, aviation admin/management graduates can achieve a substantial income and can enjoy a career in aviation w/o the hassle that pilots have to contend with.
Check out some of the salaries/incomes listed here:
AAAE Career Listings
Most of these positions require a degree in aviation admin/management, business, econ, etc.
One of my classmates is working ops for a Class C airport and making just a little less than I do as a medical professional. Am I jealous? Yes. But then again, I work three days a week. That gives me potentially 4 days for my training. There are pros and cons to any profession.
 
I just looked up a local (community, for you americans) college and saw that they have a Aviation course for a 4 year bachelors degree "Bachelor of Applied Technology" So if I went and took that course, would I be considered less than someone who had, say, a Bachelor of Science, regarding the "Applied" part.
 
Fubar said:
I just looked up a local (community, for you americans) college and saw that they have a Aviation course for a 4 year bachelors degree "Bachelor of Applied Technology" So if I went and took that course, would I be considered less than someone who had, say, a Bachelor of Science, regarding the "Applied" part.
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Your overthinking this. Don't do anything for others. I've already said airlines don't care. Now pick something YOU are interested in and that YOU like.
 
It's a simple 'checkbox'. Majors generally want you to have a four-year degree, period.

Choose something for yourself that's worth spending 4 years working on and that could support your family if you get fired/furloughed/dissolved/get-sick-of-getting-attacked-by-bed-bugs-and-leave-the-profession/whatever! :)
 
Fubar said:
I just looked up a local (community, for you americans) college and saw that they have a Aviation course for a 4 year bachelors degree "Bachelor of Applied Technology" So if I went and took that course, would I be considered less than someone who had, say, a Bachelor of Science, regarding the "Applied" part.
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Dude, don't go to school for aviation. Coming from someone who has done it, don't. It's a waste of money. No matter how many times I say it, I will be no better off coming out of college than I was with HS. Biggest regret of my life. I'm going to just save this template and c&p it whenever a thread like this comes up.
 
Do whatever you think you'll be able to put up with learning about for the next 4 years of your life. College prepares you for your initial career choice. The rest of your life employers will probably care more about previous work history more than your college degree/GPA.

Example: My Dad
He was an engineer for many years with IBM, got out of the industry for the past decade or so...now he wants back in. Has degrees in Industrial Engineering and Computer Science from Penn State. Is he able to just slide into a position he wants? Of course not. He has been out of the loop for many years.

Same thing goes for most other industries- its more or less about your connections/previous work experiences. If you ask me, studying a field you aren't interested defeats the purpose because a 'backup degree' won't automatically get you a job in a separate industry ~10 years down the road.

Pesonally, I came to Purdue to get an aviation degree. There are many other opportunities to broaden yourself here than at some place like Riddle. I believe there is more to life than airplanes, thats why I'm studying something else not only as a 'backup' of sorts, but somewhere I can return and continue my studies later in life. (This also keeps me from becoming a dreaded aviation geek)

Just keep that in mind, and do what you'll most enjoy.
 
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