That is the exact purpose of standard phraseology - eliminate any potential confusion or misunderstanding. Non-standard phraseology, no matter how cute, has the potential to screw up the message being sent and/or received.
Resist the urge.
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United Triple nickel
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That is the exact purpose of standard phraseology - eliminate any potential confusion or misunderstanding. Non-standard phraseology, no matter how cute, has the potential to screw up the message being sent and/or received.
Resist the urge.
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flyhigh
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Tru dat. Now I don't know why I thought what I did earlier. It isn't like I never use standard phraseology but from now on, I will really concentrate on what I say on the radio.
Thanks for that
Fox Xray
ATC
I don't know when that started but you hear it more often then you think. It sounds really bad and does not help me. I have no clue what got em' on the fish finder means and when I'm busy I feel like the pilot is wasting my time. Say no joy... IMC... now you're working with me.
I have sat in on active investigations where a room full of people ranging from NTSB and FAA to ALPA sat and listened to ATC tapes and when a pilot says something like that the whole room gasps at once. From where I sit it sounds really bad... in a room like that it sounds worse. What if the Triple Nickel flight had something serious happen and copies of the ATC tapes were played on every news channel ??? Regardless of whether the pilot did something wrong or right the "sloppy" radio phraseology would be the item that many would focus on in making a determination about the pilots skills.
On my side I don't like it. I have many people talking in my ear, not just A/C. I have other controllers, I have supervisors talking to me, the radar associate, etc. On my screen I see a data tag that says UAL555, I'm listening for United Five Five Five or **maybe** triple five. Anything else I have the potential to miss the call...
surreal1221
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Triple nickle is stupid...
This isn't poker.
If you're UAL99 I don't expect you to be calling yourself United Gretsky.
This isn't poker.
If you're UAL99 I don't expect you to be calling yourself United Gretsky.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Around where I work, I don't get much of the crap phraseology like all the above. Usually it's "Roger have him on TCAS" or "We're in cloud at the moment"
The only thing recent I can think of regarding an "odd" answer to phraseology was:
"American 255 how's you're ride at 390?"
"Ahh American 255.... smooth as a mashed potatah' sandwhich!"
It doesn't bother me when it's not busy, in fact I got a good laugh out of it, most pilots usually can tell when we're going balls to the wall and will keep transmissions short and concise which is very much appreicated.
Nothing is more frustrating when a pilot comes from a slower sector into one you're working 35+ airplanes and checks in with " Ahhh centre... goodayyy... this is ahhh Continental... two five six, er ah two five five, checking in at ahhhh flight level three ahhh five zero, how are ya"
The only thing recent I can think of regarding an "odd" answer to phraseology was:
"American 255 how's you're ride at 390?"
"Ahh American 255.... smooth as a mashed potatah' sandwhich!"
It doesn't bother me when it's not busy, in fact I got a good laugh out of it, most pilots usually can tell when we're going balls to the wall and will keep transmissions short and concise which is very much appreicated.
Nothing is more frustrating when a pilot comes from a slower sector into one you're working 35+ airplanes and checks in with " Ahhh centre... goodayyy... this is ahhh Continental... two five six, er ah two five five, checking in at ahhhh flight level three ahhh five zero, how are ya"
adreamer
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Doug, did your wife ride on one of them?
About phraseology, because of my poor English annouciation, I have to use standard term almost every time. Especially, if I have not familiar myself with intersections, VORs, and/or fixs announciation.
The only joke I made - flying on X'mas day, Washington center informed us about VFR traffic close to our route and altitude.
My response - "I had him on TCAS, no visual contact. Maybe Santa is doing some late delivery. "
