United orders 25 more 737-700

Seggy said:
The thing is the airplane told you if it had ice on it with ice accumulation probes. If it was telling you that it had ice on it then the low speed cue should have been brought up, automatically, without a switch. However, the way the system worked, the INCREASE REF Speed Switch and the ice accumulation annunciation are independent of one another. You can not have ice on the airplane but the low speed cue is still bumped up.

Horrific design.

It was also horrifically trained by Colgan, but horrific design.
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Ah, I see. It is strange they aren't connected.
 
alaskadrifter said:
This is really concerning to someone who would love to fly for AS someday.
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It should be. Alaska is a decent airline but it will be interesting to see how this goes. If your interest in Alaska is because of the "cool" flying they do, I would highly recommend considering something else. I recently spoke with one of our base chief pilots that said he thinks within 5 years the 737 flying in the State of Alaska will be limited to SEA nonstops to ANC and FAI and JNU/SIT in the summertime. Perhaps some north slope flying if the oil prices come back up. If you're interested in Alaska because of the company culture and their expansion further south (Hawaii/Central America/etc) it's a good place to be so long as the scope issues don't impact mainline flying too much. I think the -800/900/900ER and Max flying will be safe. I should also mention we will end up with 3-4 737-700 freighters. These will likely be staffed mostly by ANC pilots and that flying will go super senior because we still have plenty of people here that prefer arctic and southeast flying. Honestly that's a good part of why I came here so these changes are pretty disappointing to me.
 
Dan208B said:
It should be. Alaska is a decent airline but it will be interesting to see how this goes. If your interest in Alaska is because of the "cool" flying they do, I would highly recommend considering something else. I recently spoke with one of our base chief pilots that said he thinks within 5 years the 737 flying in the State of Alaska will be limited to SEA nonstops to ANC and FAI and JNU/SIT in the summertime. Perhaps some north slope flying if the oil prices come back up. If you're interested in Alaska because of the company culture and their expansion further south (Hawaii/Central America/etc) it's a good place to be so long as the scope issues don't impact mainline flying too much. I think the -800/900/900ER and Max flying will be safe. I should also mention we will end up with 3-4 737-700 freighters. These will likely be staffed mostly by ANC pilots and that flying will go super senior because we still have plenty of people here that prefer arctic and southeast flying. Honestly that's a good part of why I came here so these changes are pretty disappointing to me.
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While I would love to do the "cool" flying, I like the culture and the ANC base. Every crew I've jumpseated (jumpsat??) with has been super cool.
 
alaskadrifter said:
While I would love to do the "cool" flying, I like the culture and the ANC base. Every crew I've jumpseated (jumpsat??) with has been super cool.
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Yes great people here. The good news is I think the ANC base will shrink a lot in the future but the past rumors of it closing completely are probably gone. Plenty of nonstops now with the bigger airplanes to keep a smaller base for the long term.
 
Nark said:
I'm not sure if "Optimized Energy Approachs" were big when you were here, but it is now, for fuel savings. As slick as this bird is, getting fully configured and stable by 1000' is a handful if approach keeps you fast.
In those cases, Vmini helps, because I'm stable. But I feel it's cheating a little.
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I'm not sure I would call the Bus slick. It just has really miserable flap speeds and speed brakes.
 
ctab5060X said:
@Cessnaflyer

Did the smaller Dash 8 aircraft have the same system?
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Not that it matters much anymore but I finally got all my notes off the old iPad.

There were no considerations for speed or AoA with the Dash-8-102 in icing conditions. The ATR-72-212 would require us to move the red icing bug up manually 10 knots.

With the basic equipment with the baby Dash it flew like a truck and had very little electronics failures like the big Q.
 
wheelsup said:
I'd rather have more 50 seaters vs. 76 seaters. Taken to the extreme, would you rather have 400 34 seat SAABs or 100 76 seat EMB175's? I would bet most would choose the SAABs.

It would be difficult to staff more 50 seaters vs. less 76 seaters, plus with a cap on anything above 50 seats at mainline, you'd probably see more and more 100 seaters there.

The 50 seater is a great airplane to bring in people from outstations, but what you see the 175's doing is mainline type flying. Personally I want to get away from the regionals doing mainline type flying and more 30 min-1 hour long legs from smaller outstations like Erie, Roanoke, Melbourne, etc.
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Quit what you're doing...

You're making sense.


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This was finally announced formally with some widebody order conversions as well (777-300s and 787-9s coming sooner to replace 747-400s rather than 787-10s that are a long ways down the road.


CHICAGO, March 8, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced an order to purchase 25 new Boeing 737-700 aircraft. The order is in addition to the previously announced order of 40 737-700s. United will take delivery of the aircraft beginning at the end of 2017.

The new 737-700 aircraft will enable United to continue utilizing larger, more efficient aircraft as the airline reduces the size of its 50-seat regional fleet. United expects to have fewer than 100 aircraft in its 50-seat fleet by the end of 2019.

The next-generation 737-700s provide a superior customer experience by featuring cabin enhancements including larger overhead bins that can accommodate additional carry-on bags. The aircraft's Boeing Sky Interior creates a larger sense of space through sculpted sidewall panels and LED cabin lighting that mimics soft blue skies and sunset colors.

United also announced that the carrier will retire its 747 fleet from scheduled service by the end of 2018. Additionally, the airline announced that it will be converting 787 orders originally anticipated for delivery in 2020 and beyond into four 777-300ERs and five 787-9s beginning in 2017. These conversions will accommodate the accelerated retirement of the 747s while also meeting United's capacity needs.

"The new 737-700 aircraft are ideal for our fleet as we continue to reduce our reliance on 50-seat aircraft," said Gerry Laderman, United's senior vice president of finance and acting chief financial officer. "Retiring the 747 fleet and replacing those aircraft with more customer-pleasing, current generation aircraft creates a more reliable and efficient fleet that provides a better overall experience for our customers traveling on long-haul flights."

In addition to this announcement, United currently has firm orders for 35 Airbus A350-1000s, 153 aircraft from the Boeing 737 family, 10 Boeing 777-300ERs, and 27 Boeing 787s. The airline also has firm orders for 10 Embraer E175 aircraft that United Express partners will operate.
 
Seggy said:
It's an activist shareholder takeover.

PAR and Altimeter have ulterior motives and Gordon is no saint in this.
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I never thought Gordon was the gilded executive people seem to think he is. Some of the things I've heard out of his mouth indicates "Baffoon" would be a more fitting name.

It's a shame as it seems for the first time in a while United has a little spring in its step, the employees seem motivated and excited about the company.

Give OM a chance.
 
Cazadores said:
I never thought Gordon was the gilded executive people seem to think he is. Some of the things I've heard out of his mouth indicates "Baffoon" would be a more fitting name.

It's a shame as it seems for the first time in a while United has a little spring in its step, the employees seem motivated and excited about the company.

Give OM a chance.
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Several of my buddies who are shop stewards at the Selkirk Sub foR CSX loved OM. Said he was great at turning employee relations around.
 
As someone who has spent the last 3 weeks criss crossing the US in 737s from multiple carriers, I'd rather ride an RJ any day of the week. I'd love to see the C-series catch on provided it's flown by mainline pilots.
 
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