United Flight 93 on A&E

Windchill

Windchill

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Anyone catch the special on A&E last night about United Flight 93? It was pretty powerful. While the actual events on board can only be speculated to a degree, what hit home was realizing that there were actual people on board calling loved ones on the ground knowing that would be the last time they could talk to each other, never to see each other again ... and having a 7-month old at home myself, realizing that there were parents who would suddenly find themselves as single-parents having to raise infants which I know itself is a daunting task ... let alone coupled with the emotional grief from losing a wife or husband.

There was also a good program on a few hours earlier about Air Traffic Control and the responsibility of having to ground every flight in the air at once.
 
Windchill said:
Anyone catch the special on A&E last night about United Flight 93? It was pretty powerful. While the actual events on board can only be speculated to a degree, what hit home was realizing that there were actual people on board calling loved ones on the ground knowing that would be the last time they could talk to each other, never to see each other again ... and having a 7-month old at home myself, realizing that there were parents who would suddenly find themselves as single-parents having to raise infants which I know itself is a daunting task ... let alone coupled with the emotional grief from losing a wife or husband.

There was also a good program on a few hours earlier about Air Traffic Control and the responsibility of having to ground every flight in the air at once.
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I watched the movie, and i thought it was powerful also. I know you cant get exactly what was goign on in the plane during that time, but i dont feel they overhyped it too much.

Brought Anger/Sadness/Pride all from watching it. I felt mad for what happened. Sad for what happened, and prideful for being an american.
 
I knew LeRoy so it's a little rough and 'soon' for me personally.
 
How were all those people able to use Cell phones on an airliner? I never get reception above about 7000' or so? I guess none of them had T-mobile.
 
Timbuff10 said:
How were all those people able to use Cell phones on an airliner? I never get reception above about 7000' or so? I guess none of them had T-mobile.
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I was going to put the same thing, but couldn't think of a decent way to word it. And I usually can't get reception above 4000' or so (Sprint).
 
I didn't have much desire to see that show, instead i was more interested in the prelude: grounding 9/11 about the grounding of aircraft's during 9/11

PS. Verizon rocks
 
I think all the news networks, broadcast and cable, should broadcast footage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks at least once a month.
How soon we have forgotten.
You cant just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen, and continue to live in your own little happy world.
We need constant reminders of what these savages are capable of in order to better protect ourselves.
The more movies and TV shows about 9/11 the better.
 
My wife asked me what about the guy in the GA airplane toward the end who saw the plane barreling down ... why he wasn't on the ground yet at that point.
 
TheFlyingTurkey said:
I think all the news networks, broadcast and cable, should broadcast footage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks at least once a month.
How soon we have forgotten.
You cant just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen, and continue to live in your own little happy world.
We need constant reminders of what these savages are capable of in order to better protect ourselves.
The more movies and TV shows about 9/11 the better.
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I think a great majority of the general public has forgotten.

Not me. I'm reminded every day I wake up and don't have a job to go to. It's VERY real and it's not that I don't think about it, or that I don't want to pretend it doesn't exsist or never happened. Those were MY co-workers, MY airline's airplanes, believe me, I remember. I remember every day that awful feeling in the pit of my stomach as I suddenly realized my life had changed forever. I would only come to realize in the months afterwards just how much. Watching other AA F/As at the airport, they're going about their day like nothing has changed (though in retrospect, their lives have all changed too), while I sit on the street furloughed after 7 years of service to AMR.

So no, I CAN'T ignore it, I DON'T pretend it never happened, and believe me my little world is anything but happy right now.

I just don't want to watch a movie about it. Ask me again in 10, 20 or 40 years, and my answer may be different. But not right now.
 
Windchill said:
My wife asked me what about the guy in the GA airplane toward the end who saw the plane barreling down ... why he wasn't on the ground yet at that point.
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Things that make you say hmmmmmmm...I say govt lies and propganda! Maybe if I keep saying it enough that black car will come for me.

timbuff10 said:
How were all those people able to use Cell phones on an airliner? I never get reception above about 7000' or so? I guess none of them had T-mobile.
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Let alone use their phones at like FL350 and 500+ knts. Again...things that make ya go hmmmm.
 
TheFlyingTurkey said:
I think all the news networks, broadcast and cable, should broadcast footage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks at least once a month.
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I would honestly like to see the live footage rebroadcast as it was that day. It was particularly chilling, and you can't help feel for those people. My friend's dad was supposed to be on one of the BOS-LAX flights but he cancelled the trip at the last moment. I feel bad for all those who lost a friend, a loved one, co-worker, etc.
 
Things that make you say hmmmmmmm...
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I know there will be aspects added for drama ... but I told my wife I would assume a picture such as this would try to piece together as much as it can and draw from actual ATC recordings to work the puzzle and would have that guy there simply because there is actual ATC evidence of him being there ... otherwise I would have questioned what he was still doing up there or what the producers had him doing there.
 
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I don't agree at all that the footage should be shown once per month.

Eroded civil liberties, a wrecked national air transportation system, national debt, further erosion of the middle class, massive oil prices, I think I'm reminded of it on a daily basis already.

This might step on a toe or two, but the "9/11 is the reason because of blah blah blah" is about as tired as myself instantly screaming "racism" if I only get two pickles on my hamburger at Jack in The Box.

It's happened, it's done, we need to make ourselves better and grow stronger from the event, not retrench, give up liberty for safety and throw our hands up in the air and continue to blame 19 arseholes (and another couple we can't seem to find) for everything that isn't going right with our culture almost six years later.

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if you guys want to know what it's like to know one of the pilots, ask. Does the thought of some religio-terrorist slicing his throat as he screamed for mercy make me want to spring into action and vote for J.D. Hayworth? Nope.

If you want to know what it's like to be stranded in a strange city with a bunch of other stranded pilots? I'll dig up some of my old 'daily updated newsletters' I sent out for my own sanity. Would you like to know what it was like flying, as a passenger, from BOS to DFW on the first flight after BOS opened again? I can tell you all about that too.

Or how much of a hassle it is just to take a whiz during a long transcon.

Or to see how airlines grouped together decades of crappy decisions, blamed it all on 9/11 and gouged the employees? Yup.

I'm living it man, I don't need some overglamorized docudrama on television that I can safely watch in amazement with a tin of popcorn.

Besides, I've never gotten service on an airplane traveling more than 130 knots on Tmobile or on AT&T Wireless. But that erodes from the 'drama' of the legend and it's harder to sell commercials during the airing.
 
Doug Taylor said:
It's happened, it's done, we need to make ourselves better and grow stronger from the event, not retrench, give up liberty for safety and throw our hands up in the air and continue to blame 19 arseholes (and another couple we can't seem to find) for everything that isn't going right with our culture almost six years later.
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Kinda like this...

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2005/12/20/2

"In addition, a "don't ask, don't tell" protest at the University of California at Santa Cruz that featured a gay kiss-in was labeled by the Pentagon as a "credible threat" of terrorism."

:confused:

Furthermore...I hate the word "Patriot."
 
You know there really is a time and a place to simply be respectful of what some people who have been there and done that have to say and STFU.
 
Perhaps I'm over-sensitive, but I only hear "OMG!!!! 9/11!" when someone:

a. Wants money.
b. Wants votes.
c. Wants to 'borrow' my rights.
d. Wants to excuse a SNAFU.

See, dangit, now all ya'll got me verklempt when I'm supposed to be calling Bogberto back and working on vacation! Aeigh!
 
That's what you get for running this forum. You could always turn the reigns over to me and Chris if you need a break :)
 
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