Cheechako
Well-Known Member
Here's the chart: http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0704/01238ILDY25.PDF
And the airport:
If you looked in the dictionary under "one way runway," you'll see a picture of Kodiak rwy 25. It's got a 2500' mountain at the end of it. Land on 25, depart on 7.
So there we were on the ILS 25 into Kodiak. The captain was flying. We started the approach with only a 9 kt. tailwind (we're approved for 15 kts). When we called tower established inbound from the arc, the tailwind turned into 19 kts, then 22kts. Too much, change of plans, we'll do a circling maneuver to 36. Maintain 1000' until in a position to descend for landing. The captain broke off the localizer, left turn to downwind 36. He started configuring and descending. The wind really started pushing us into a very tight downwind. There's not a whole lot of room for a wide turn to final because of another vertical wall of granite. The captain was on speed, on descent, but from what I could see the turn to final was going to be too tight. We were going to overshoot and put ourselves way too close to the hills and buzz the Coast Guard hangars just on the other side of the runway. He was literally blind of it being on the left side of the airplane.
I spoke up. "I don't like it."
"What?"
"Sorry, but I don't like it."
"What do you mean?"
"I don't like it, it's too tight, let's get out of here"
"Okay...."
Go around power, hard left turn to stay out of the hills on that side, flaps 15, gear up. Out over the water to try it again.
We landed safely and taxied to the gate. This was our first leg of flying together, so I wasn't sure if the captain was going to thank me or rip me a new one for screwing up his approach. I'm still fairly new to the plane, and this was only my second time into Kodiak. The captain has been at Alaska for 12 years, 10 in the -200 and the last two in the -400. I'm sure he's been in and out of Kodiak a gozillion times. I was uncertain as to what his abilities were and what the airplane is actually capable of. All I know, is I was uncomfortable with the situation and wanted out.
He thanked me! He said this is what CRM is all about. He couldn't see exactly how close we were and appreciated my judgment and willingness to speak up.
I love my job!!!
And the airport:
If you looked in the dictionary under "one way runway," you'll see a picture of Kodiak rwy 25. It's got a 2500' mountain at the end of it. Land on 25, depart on 7.
So there we were on the ILS 25 into Kodiak. The captain was flying. We started the approach with only a 9 kt. tailwind (we're approved for 15 kts). When we called tower established inbound from the arc, the tailwind turned into 19 kts, then 22kts. Too much, change of plans, we'll do a circling maneuver to 36. Maintain 1000' until in a position to descend for landing. The captain broke off the localizer, left turn to downwind 36. He started configuring and descending. The wind really started pushing us into a very tight downwind. There's not a whole lot of room for a wide turn to final because of another vertical wall of granite. The captain was on speed, on descent, but from what I could see the turn to final was going to be too tight. We were going to overshoot and put ourselves way too close to the hills and buzz the Coast Guard hangars just on the other side of the runway. He was literally blind of it being on the left side of the airplane.
I spoke up. "I don't like it."
"What?"
"Sorry, but I don't like it."
"What do you mean?"
"I don't like it, it's too tight, let's get out of here"
"Okay...."
Go around power, hard left turn to stay out of the hills on that side, flaps 15, gear up. Out over the water to try it again.
We landed safely and taxied to the gate. This was our first leg of flying together, so I wasn't sure if the captain was going to thank me or rip me a new one for screwing up his approach. I'm still fairly new to the plane, and this was only my second time into Kodiak. The captain has been at Alaska for 12 years, 10 in the -200 and the last two in the -400. I'm sure he's been in and out of Kodiak a gozillion times. I was uncertain as to what his abilities were and what the airplane is actually capable of. All I know, is I was uncomfortable with the situation and wanted out.
He thanked me! He said this is what CRM is all about. He couldn't see exactly how close we were and appreciated my judgment and willingness to speak up.
I love my job!!!
Yes I have back-taxied before but it was in reference to the larger commercial operations. You know, the ones that Cheechako is flying in. I don't recall seeing too many 737's back taxi or any of the larger commercial planes for that matter. If you look at the layout you can see the tw to Rw7 and not 25.
