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I like the German way of dealing with it. That is, if I remember correctly from growing up there.

You basically get one "oops, I didn't know I had that many" that still has very real consequences. I believe 6 month suspension and a fine.

Do it again, you're done driving for good.

Certainly better than some city or state jurisdictions here in the USA, where you find DUI related accidents where the DUI driver kills or more ore people in the accident, and who is later found to have already had 3, 4, 5 or more DUI convictions on his record already. And of course, is normally uninjured or with minor injuries only from the accident they caused.
 
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Certainly better than some city or state jurisdictions here in the USA, where you find DUI related accidents where the DUI driver kills one ore people in the accident, and who is later found to have already had 3, 4, 5 or more DUI convictions on his record already. And of course, is normally uninjured or with minor injuries only from the accident they caused.

Absolutely.

I love me some booze, and I can understand getting one of you're not too far overnthe limit. One "ooops" with slightly less, but still very real consequences. But there is absolutely no excuse to have more than one.
 
Why anyone would drive drunk in Europe with their awesome transportation system befuddles me.

Sadly, decent public transportation is seen, statewide, as some sort of political takeover. In the suburbs, people have the impression that it's just going to open up their tony neighborhoods to pesky thiefs to venture into your neighborhood, steal all their Precious Moments figurines and ride the train back to their Thieves Lair.
 
Sadly, decent public transportation is seen, statewide, as some sort of political takeover. In the suburbs, people have the impression that it's just going to open up their tony neighborhoods to pesky thiefs to venture into your neighborhood, steal all their Precious Moments figurines and ride the train back to their Thieves Lair.

A few years ago I was in my former rented house upstairs asleep when someone came in through a downstairs window at 3:45AM. A while later after the commotion subsided and the police officer was writing up the report, she mentioned that instances like this often turn out to be people from Detroit. That'd be an hour drive away at 80MPH in a [stolen] car.

Later that morning back in their Thieves Lair, they would have opened up my 2006 Macbook to find it's missing a letter "P" key, it's CD Drive is completely shot, inoperative touchpad, zero useful battery life whatsoever, screen very messed up, among other features, and probably wondered . . . we drove an hour each way and definitely picked the wrong thing to steal.

But yeah -- in a metro area with perhaps the least public transportation of all major cities in the USA from the beginning, the thieves will still do what they want, where they want.
 
A few years ago I was in my former rented house upstairs asleep when someone came in through a downstairs window at 3:45AM. A while later after the commotion subsided and the police officer was writing up the report, she mentioned that instances like this often turn out to be people from Detroit. That'd be an hour drive away at 80MPH in a [stolen] car.

Later that morning back in their Thieves Lair, they would have opened up my 2006 Macbook to find it's missing a letter "P" key, it's CD Drive is completely shot, inoperative touchpad, zero useful battery life whatsoever, screen very messed up, among other features, and probably wondered . . . we drove an hour each way and definitely picked the wrong thing to steal.

But yeah -- in a metro area with perhaps the least public transportation of all major cities in the USA from the beginning, the thieves will still do what they want, where they want.

A friend of mine who lived just on the other side of town from you had a similar thing happen except he came downstairs and put a half a clip's worth of 9mm bullets into the two guys. They didn't get his busted up laptop.
 
Why anyone would drive drunk in Europe with their awesome transportation system befuddles me.

Sadly, decent public transportation is seen, statewide, as some sort of political takeover. In the suburbs, people have the impression that it's just going to open up their tony neighborhoods to pesky thiefs to venture into your neighborhood, steal all their Precious Moments figurines and ride the train back to their Thieves Lair.

My buddy got a DUI. First one. Blew a .09. It almost ruined his life. not because of fines, but because of losing his license for 6 months. NJ doesn't give a work-license (let's you drive to and from work during a license suspension) and where we grew up there is 0 public transportation. There isn't even a cab company. He had no way to get to work. Way to far to walk. He had to bum rides from whoever he could whenever he could and he came really close to getting fired because of how many days he missed or was late.
 
I like the German way of dealing with it. That is, if I remember correctly from growing up there.

You basically get one "oops, I didn't know I had that many" that still has very real consequences. I believe 6 month suspension and a fine.

Do it again, you're done driving for good.

And zee third time, to the camps!
 
I love traffic circles. There are quite a few near my neighborhood. Smooth, efficient and easy. Fun too.

Except when people fail to realize they have to yield to those already in the circle and come plowing on through. In theory, they're great, but I've been nearly smoked in them one too many times to enjoy them.
 
Except when people fail to realize they have to yield to those already in the circle and come plowing on through. In theory, they're great, but I've been nearly smoked in them one too many times to enjoy them.

That's what I was saying, the biggest problem with them here are too many people who don't know how they work or what the rules of the road are with them, nor do they learn. No matter what signage is in place showing what lane does what and goes where, as well as signs saying to yield to those in the circle already.

The circle is only as good as the lowest denominator driver using it lol.
 
In NY there are literally more "no right on red" than there are "right on red". And then there are some like the one right by my work where you can turn on red, but if you don't stop for a full 3 seconds you get a ticket. The People's Republic of NY makes sure their hand is in every pot.

Upstate NY or NYC? In NYC you are not ever allowed to make a right on red, unless there is a sign specifically authorizing it.
 
What do you envision the drinking limits are in a Muslim country?

I don't know what the idiotic religious theocracies have up their garb. Nor, frankly, do I care. I don't go there, I don't want to go there, and I have no need to go there.
 
I don't know what the idiotic religious theocracies have up their garb. Nor, frankly, do I care. I don't go there, I don't want to go there, and I have no need to go there.

Utah is a beautiful state. It's a shame to miss out. Try Wyoming instead?
 
I don't know what the idiotic religious theocracies have up their garb. Nor, frankly, do I care. I don't go there, I don't want to go there, and I have no need to go there.

I don't worry about Utah. I'll just flash my Costco card when I waltz through the Atlantic and steal all the mini's out of an XOJET X. A few sodas too. Problem solved!
 
The trick is drinking before you eat, otherwise, you're just going to walk around burping, farting and taking Pepto Bismol to reduce your belly gas from that skunk-ass 3-2.

There's scotch at my house and steaks ready to grill...you know...whenever.
 
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