UAL Pilots Sentenced to Jail Time in Glasgow

FlyingAccountant said:
Not to downplay what happened, but 10 and 15 months seems pretty harsh. These guys would do better getting treatment somewhere, not rotting in a Scottish prison for a year.
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It'll give them plenty of time to complete their Airline Apps reapply. Sorry. No sympathy for these guys. We all make mistakes. But this one is stupid.
 
So while we're busy hanging everyone, what was their equivalent in US BAC? Sounds like Scotland has a lower limit than ours. If that's true, that's kinda BS. It's not like they generally tell you that sort of thing or do they?
 
Rocketman99 said:
So while we're busy hanging everyone, what was their equivalent in US BAC? Sounds like Scotland has a lower limit than ours. If that's true, that's kinda BS. It's not like they generally tell you that sort of thing or do they?
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You're in a foreign country. Their laws apply. It's beholden on travelers to educate themselves as to the local laws.
 
Rocketman99 said:
So while we're busy hanging everyone, what was their equivalent in US BAC? Sounds like Scotland has a lower limit than ours. If that's true, that's kinda BS. It's not like they generally tell you that sort of thing or do they?
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Did a little googling and found that 42 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood is equal to a BAC of .042.

The article said that the limit is 20 mg. As surprising as it is, Scotland has a more conservative restriction for drinking before flying than we do.
 
Cptnchia said:
You're in a foreign country. Their laws apply. It's beholden on travelers to educate themselves as to the local laws.
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I would not have ever assumed a country had different rules for alcohol and flying, seeing how that is something that is a function of the aviation authority and not local law enforcement, and also doesn't make sense. So a small yay to these two for illustrating such a thing does exist I guess.
 
The rules are a lot tighter throughout Europe. That's caught a lot of unsuspecting crewmembers by surprise.
 
guywhoflies said:
Did a little googling and found that 42 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood is equal to a BAC of .042.

The article said that the limit is 20 mg. As surprising as it is, Scotland has a more conservative restriction for drinking before flying than we do.
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So they were also just barely over the line per the FAA, so it didn't truly matter if Scotland is more restrictive.
 
Rocketman99 said:
I would not have ever assumed a country had different rules for alcohol and flying, seeing how that is something that is a function of the aviation authority and not local law enforcement, and also doesn't make sense. So a small yay to these two for illustrating such a thing does exist I guess.
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Never assume anything is exactly the same as it is here once you leave the country.

Also, alcohol limit is a function of local law enforcement. Even in the US. When was the last time you heard of the FAA arresting someone?
 
Derg said:
The rules are a lot tighter throughout Europe. That's caught a lot of unsuspecting crewmembers by surprise.
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I was already aware for driving, I would not have though it was different for flying for reasons I mentioned earlier. Very interesting. Do they tell you guys about that at all or does it come from word of mouth/experience?
 
jtrain609 said:
It's a morality law in Utah, not a money grab. They're trying to round up all the Catholics after mass.
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So there are no huge fines? Tickets that you have to pay? Classes that you have pay for and take? You don't have to pay, for the breathalyzer in the car to start it? And pay a fee(s) for license reinstatement in UT.? You have to do all thst, maybe more here in AZ.

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