Type Rating Question - 767 Series

Bigey

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After looking and comparing flight deck photos, it seems that the 767-400 has a total different flight deck then the 767-200 and -300. Since they have different cockpits, do they carry the same type rating? Can one pilot just jump out of a 767-300 and fly the 767-400? Thanks ahead!
 
Same type rating, 767 type rating all around. Up to the airline, but, yes, a pilot can be expected to fly both the 767-200 & the 767-400.
 
I think the important point is a type rating is far more then how the cockpit looks, and with every different model different training is required before you can fly it.
 
I see. Dont you think boeing should of made the type rating on the '64 the same as the 777? They have the EXACT SAME cockpits, similar performance, and similar handling characteristics. In my opinion only, i think the 767-400, should require a type rating, that could also be type rating for the 777 series. The '64 seems wayy to big for a 767! In delta and continental, the '64 holds more people than the 777! Thats just my opinion! Maybe even make the 777 767 and 757 all same type rating!
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Ok here im just kinda of rambling on and off now..its late, i got school and finals!
 
The 777 was designed to look like/handle like the 767. Because it's got fly by wire controls, the Boeing engineers could make the airplane fly (to the pilot) however they wanted. The huge difference between the two is that the 777 has probably very few systems in conjunction with the 767 due to it's fly by wire nature.
 
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I see. Dont you think boeing should of made the type rating on the '64 the same as the 777? They have the EXACT SAME cockpits, similar performance, and similar handling characteristics. In my opinion only, i think the 767-400, should require a type rating, that could also be type rating for the 777 series. The '64 seems wayy to big for a 767! In delta and continental, the '64 holds more people than the 777! Thats just my opinion! Maybe even make the 777 767 and 757 all same type rating!
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Ok here im just kinda of rambling on and off now..its late, i got school and finals!

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Sometimes I wonder if people read previous posts
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Though the 777 & the 757/767 may have similar handling characteristics, it does not mean the same. Plus, the 757/767
is about a 10 year older aircraft than the 777. You can not change what has been done already, when Boeing launched the 757/767 the 777 did not exist.
 
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I see. Dont you think boeing should of made the type rating on the '64 the same as the 777? They have the EXACT SAME cockpits, similar performance, and similar handling characteristics. In my opinion only, i think the 767-400, should require a type rating, that could also be type rating for the 777 series. The '64 seems wayy to big for a 767! In delta and continental, the '64 holds more people than the 777! Thats just my opinion! Maybe even make the 777 767 and 757 all same type rating!
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Ok here im just kinda of rambling on and off now..its late, i got school and finals!

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Sometimes I wonder if people read previous posts
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Sometimes i wonder if people read new posts! You would see my previous post and this post was different!
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Why would Boeing want to make airlines have to get a type rating to fly the 767-400. Boeing would want to keep cost down when selling a new plane more especially a stretch to an existing airframe.
The mere fact that the 757/767 share the same type rating is what makes it attractive to airlines because it is cheaper to operate which keeps training cost, which helps the airlines bottom line.

-Matthew
 
Type Ratings are a funny thing. If you get a Hawker HS-125 type rating you can fly everything from the Series 1 which first flew in 1962, through the current production Hawker 800XP which has the Collins Proline 21 glass cockpit. Through out this time there has been numerous changes to the engines (from straight turbojets to TFE-731 turbofans), fuel systems (wing tanks only, dorsal tank added, dorsal tank removed & ventral tank added), cockpit (old style gauges through the -700, Honeywell EFIS for the 800 and early 800XP, Collins Proline 21 in current production), APU (no APU in early models, Solar APU for gound use only in 800 and early 800XP, Garrett APU that can be used in flight in current model and retrofitted to some earlier aircraft) in addition the electrical system has changed and many cockpit controls changed locations.

During its 40+ years of production the aircraft has been stretched, the wings have grown is span and then been changed to an entirely different design and numerous other changes have taken place.

It is still legal to get type rated in the latest model and then jump into a 30 year old airplane which is in reality, a totally different aircraft. But to the FAA they are still all just a HS-125.

I have always wondered if the FAA has some list of all the type ratings and what you can fly if you have each one, but I have never heard of this being posted anywhere. It can get pretty confusing as to what rating you need to fly what jet. I know that if you get a CE-500 type rating for the Citation you can fly quite a few different models, but it would be nice to have a place to look which would list each one.
 
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Same type rating, 767 type rating all around. Up to the airline, but, yes, a pilot can be expected to fly both the 767-200 & the 767-400.

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I'm still amazed that I can legally hop out of a MD-90 EFD and into a standard DC-9-15 and still be legal!
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I have always wondered if the FAA has some list of all the type ratings and what you can fly if you have each one, but I have never heard of this being posted anywhere. It can get pretty confusing as to what rating you need to fly what jet. I know that if you get a CE-500 type rating for the Citation you can fly quite a few different models, but it would be nice to have a place to look which would list each one.

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There's an AC that lists all of the different type ratings. I'm not sure which one it is, however.

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I have always wondered if the FAA has some list of all the type ratings and what you can fly if you have each one, but I have never heard of this being posted anywhere. It can get pretty confusing as to what rating you need to fly what jet. I know that if you get a CE-500 type rating for the Citation you can fly quite a few different models, but it would be nice to have a place to look which would list each one.

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There's an AC that lists all of the different type ratings. I'm not sure which one it is, however.

Chris

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I'm still amazed that I can legally hop out of a MD-90 EFD and into a standard DC-9-15 and still be legal!
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A pilot would crap their pants if they were flying the DC-9-15 & then climbed into the cockpit of the MD90EFD....
 
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