Two Part 135's?

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Nick2024

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Hard to find info so figure I throw it out the sharks to feed on.


Can a pilot fly for two part 135 companies? Doing contract work for both?
 
Dugie8 said:
Sure. You just have to attend training for both operators.
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That's an interesting question! Do you mean two separate a/c training events or just both company's indoc and recurrent training? (assuming he is flying the same a/c for both companies.)
 
bucksmith said:
That's an interesting question! Do you mean two separate a/c training events or just both company's indoc and recurrent training? (assuming he is flying the same a/c for both companies.)
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For 135 it would be both indocs and initial training even if the same aircraft.

I believe it would be the same for recurrent training.

If I am remembering correctly. The FAA just did some changes in the past couple of years.
 
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The duty and flight time is cumulative for both, so they both have to agree and abide by any required rest etc that occurs.
 
Itchy said:
The duty and flight time is cumulative for both, so they both have to agree and abide by any required rest etc that occurs.
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This. The feds up here want all commercial flying for each company listed on both flight and duty records.
 
You would need to do indoc for both, my question would be for training would you have to do checks with the check airman from each or would one carry over...
 
digduggy said:
You would need to do indoc for both, my question would be for training would you have to do checks with the check airman from each or would one carry over...
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They don't. This used to be common practice, especially for contract pilots but the FAA decided that your checkride is only good for 1 carrier. Even if it's the same airplane. The guidance for that is probably in the 8900.1
 
I was thinking the 297/293 aircraft specific... The 299 is company specific as well, correct?

Yes you can, I suppose it depends on the operation
 
digduggy said:
I was thinking the 297/293 aircraft specific... The 299 is company specific as well, correct?

Yes you can, I suppose it depends on the operation
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I don't have the language or the desire to dig through the 8900 and/or interpretations, although I'm sure it's in there. I just hate searching those two things. Nothing ever comes up. You can know the interpretation name and date and you won't find it.
So as far as I'm aware the checkride is company specific, but since I have no evidence for that.........
 
The biggest issue is getting the duty and rest times to fall within limitations. I imagine both companies would want to keep you 100 percent available but if you time out due to the other that's not going to go over well.

Both would have to be more part time. I know when i was exploring doing my 135 and a 91 skydive op at the same time, my 135 required I check in and out with dispatch when doing the pt 91 commercial stuff just like if i were flying with them.
 
All good info , I was just thinking about the idea and how hard it would be to keep up with this. Its not going to happen!
 
Keep in mind also, if you fail a 135 ride for one operator you may not fly for the other until you complete a recheck successfully.
 
135.301(b) If a pilot being checked under this subpart fails any of the required maneuvers, the person giving the check may give additional training to the pilot during the course of the check. In addition to repeating the maneuvers failed, the person giving the check may require the pilot being checked to repeat any other maneuvers that are necessary to determine the pilot's proficiency. If the pilot being checked is unable to demonstrate satisfactory performance to the person conducting the check, the certificate holder may not use the pilot, nor may the pilot serve, as a flight crewmember in operations under this part until the pilot has satisfactorily completed the check.

 
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