cadbury
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It is resurrected because I am asking similar questions.
Twin Otter Study Guide?
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cadbury
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Looks like nobody realise that DHC-6 rating is a must when flying the Twin Otter.
Who say so?!
No such thing!
For your info, there is FAA rating on DHC-6 Twin Otter! FAA requires FAA licensed Airmen to be rated in DHC-6 in order to operate Twin Otter.
This is a FAA rating registry published on May 2015 (click here). See the row in 'deHavilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd., Canada'.
1. There is a FAA DHC-6 Twin Otter DPE and I am trying to get hold of him.
2. FAA rating registry is a mandatory guide for airmen to seek respective rating. FAA will not publish it for fun.
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cadbury
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I have just sent her an email.
Yes, you are right! I need 'DHC-6' printed on my back of FAA license before employer can consider my application
DHC-6 rating is demanding outside of United States. Rich Aviation Services in Fort Worth Texas used to offer this rating. It is silly and stupid to dump the DHC-6 rating course. It is a lucrative market!
Hm... it looks like most DHC-6 air operators in the United States are illegally hiring pilots without a DHC-6 rating!
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ASpilot2be
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Interesting. It looks like it is available, but not required. Some businesses may want it.
SquatThrust
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You don't need a type rating to fly the Twin Otter in the USA.cadbury said:
cadbury
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I agree. It is interesting!
DHC-6 300/400 series has MTOW 12500lbs and nonthless, other DHC-6 series has lesser MTOW.
However, irregardless of reaching MTOW or jet engine, a DHC-6 rating is compulsory (FAA has clearly stated/published in black and white) for pilots flying Twin Otter!
Most DHC-6 air-operators across in US are ignorant about this! Hiring non pilots illegally without proper rating. The insurance company is not going to pay a single penny if anything happens.
cadbury
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I am not a Twin Otter pilot but I am guessing that you only need a type rating if the gross takeoff weight in that model or modification is over 12,500 pounds.
The King Air 200 is in that list also but you only need a type rating in the few that have been modified to have a takeoff weight over 12,500 pounds.
In the USA.
CFI A&P
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Where is this black and white publication that says it is required ? Having a type in the registry doesn't trump the other regulations and definitions published. That DHC-6 type is probably related to an ICAO requirement, since other ICAO nations require a type for this make and model.
Remember 14 CFR 1 states large aircraft is MORE than 12,500 lbs.
The -300 has a MTOW of 12,500 lbs. the -200 and -100 are less.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div8&node=14:1.0.1.1.1.0.1.1
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...1a1455886257e150065bc65/$FILE/A9EA_Rev_17.pdf
SquatThrust
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I fly a DHC-6-200 with a MTOW of 11,579lbs. The -300 Otter has an MTOW of 12,500lbs. I also fly the Short SC-7 skyvan with a MTOW of 12,500lbs. They are both turboprops. This is important for you to understand, because:
The Twin Otter is neither a 'Large' aircraft, nor is it a Turbojet-powered airplane. Do you really, truly believe that the FAA would just turn a blind eye to numerous operators flying an airplane illegally?
hammerhat
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Apparently there exist STCs to increase the MTOW to 14000 lbs, puts it into restricted category.
http://www.ikhanagroup.com/project/mtow-increase/
I know a jump pilot who files a standard twin otter at a local DZ, he does not have the type.
http://www.ikhanagroup.com/project/mtow-increase/
I know a jump pilot who files a standard twin otter at a local DZ, he does not have the type.
CFI A&P
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@cadbury He just established the DHC-6 is not a large aircraft (by FAA definition), nor is a turbojet airplane, correct? These are the two main requirements for a type rating, therefore it does not require a type rating. Checkmate. I rest my case, your Honor. Owned. etc...
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CFI A&P
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After a little more research, that list must be complied of standardized aircraft type designations for the purpose of paperwork. For example, that list has the Augusta 109 on it. The A109 has a MTOW far less than 12,500lbs, it is not turbojet powered, etc... While I am not a rotorcraft pilot, I know a guy that does fly a 109 and he DOES NOT have a type rating on his certificate for that aircraft. He's been to training, is insured and flies it internationally and seems to do fine with it.
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cadbury
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Make sense.
I am aware of it.
Impressive!
Interesting!
Haha... ... I like your last sentence.
Understood.
SouabniM
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Hello All,
I know this thread is getting old now but wanted to share a few facts that I do know.
An FAA Type rating for the DHC-6 exists, and the Type rating is required when operating above the 12,500MTOW up to the STC approved 14,000lbs MTOW. This is true for both the 300 and 400 series.(Not sure if the same exists for the Legacy 100s or 200s)
Source: I have a colleague that possesses this type on his FAA certificate.(as attached)
Good day!
I know this thread is getting old now but wanted to share a few facts that I do know.
An FAA Type rating for the DHC-6 exists, and the Type rating is required when operating above the 12,500MTOW up to the STC approved 14,000lbs MTOW. This is true for both the 300 and 400 series.(Not sure if the same exists for the Legacy 100s or 200s)
Source: I have a colleague that possesses this type on his FAA certificate.(as attached)
Good day!