Twin Cessna?

a lot of companies and individuals still fly twin cessnas and I don't forsee that changing anytime soon. My company has a fleet of them... granted they're old, but they seem to be extremely reliable and serve their purpose in the freight industry. I don't see why we'd get rid of them. Hell, they've been paid off for 20 years and are no less fuel efficient than most aircraft of similar size.
 
gomntwins said:
a lot of companies and individuals still fly twin cessnas and I don't forsee that changing anytime soon. My company has a fleet of them... granted they're old, but they seem to be extremely reliable and serve their purpose in the freight industry. I don't see why we'd get rid of them. Hell, they've been paid off for 20 years and are no less fuel efficient than most aircraft of similar size.
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Plus, they are sexy aircraft--I feel like I am in a Tom Wolfe essay--The Tangerine Dream Flake Baby-

I love that plane.

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beasly said:
Plus, they are sexy aircraft--I feel like I am in a Tom Wolfe essay--The Tangerine Dream Flake Baby-

I love that plane.

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I personally can't stand flying a twin cessna, but to each their own. They definitely serve a purpose though. And actually, when I was flying them daily I did like them. Once I got into a turbine though I never looked back.
 
I love Twin Cessna's...esp my 310, it's got a great useful load and will do 195 KIAS at 8,000ft on 28/gal-hour.

At a previous job I was able to fly both the 414 and 421, loved them both.

Seeing the price for a 414 with new RAM's and new avionics packages that top out at $800,000...I doubt they'll be going away anytime soon.

The one Twin Cessna I always wanted to fly is the T303, anyone have experiences with the T303 that they can share?
 
SurferLucas said:
I love Twin Cessna's...esp my 310, it's got a great useful load and will do 195 KIAS at 8,000ft on 28/gal-hour.

At a previous job I was able to fly both the 414 and 421, loved them both.

Seeing the price for a 414 with new RAM's and new avionics packages that top out at $800,000...I doubt they'll be going away anytime soon.

The one Twin Cessna I always wanted to fly is the T303, anyone have experiences with the T303 that they can share?
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No direct experience with the 303...but talking to a guy that flew one after he flew our 310 a lot...he said that the Crusader was less airplane than the 310, for more money, and with an airstair door. That was his opinion - I never flew one.
 
jwp_145 said:
There is a 303 here at KRVS... it belongs to one of our former Oklahoma Governors.
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the 303 is ugly. The 404 on the other hand is awesome. The titan fly through a thunderstorm like a champ, burn a lot of gas in the process, sound like drag racing Harley's going down the runway, and probably have an engine destroy itself 1000 hours before tbo... but for twin cessna's is awesome. The Titan was the only twin Cessna I actually loved. It had a nice little storm window that sucked the smoke from my cigarette right out of... awesome.
 
The 303 looks alot better than a Senaca, but that's all just personal opinion!

Never flew the unpressurized Twin Cessna's, but the 421 engines would run close to TBO if you baby'd them. Helped that ours had spoilers, so it made descents alittle easier. Gotta love the trailing-link landing gear on the 421!
 
Many many Twin Cessnas still flying! One person even noted that 400-series aircraft still draw a pretty hefty price tag.

Of every aircraft I've flown (and that includes a jet), the 400-series Cessna is by far my favorite. I fly a 402 at the moment, and there simply aren't any newer piston aircraft that can match the useful load, robustness, and speed of an older Twin Cessna. They're getting old, but they still have plenty of life in 'em.
 
Great responses, thanks all.

Here is a further question...

Cessna just came out with their composite single line:

http://www.cessna.com/single-engine/cessna-400.html

and things are going that way with the other manufacturers as well.

Given that the new composite aircraft are very fast, do you see the Cessna Twin's being reincarnated as composite's?

Me? I hope so.

cordially,

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beasly said:
Cessna just came out with their composite single line:
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First off, Cessna didn't come out with their composite single line; they bought it. What you're looking at there is the Columbia 400. In my opinion, Cessna is not worthy of having their name on the side of that airplane.

Second, the R&D required to transform their twin line to composite material is enormous. They recently nixed their Columbus project. This was to be a biz jet that was going to compete with the ranks of Gulfstream and Falcon; something they've never come close to doing. If they didn't think it was feasible to continue that project, they certainly wouldn't take on another project that wouldn't have nearly as large of a profit margin.
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
First off, Cessna didn't come out with their composite single line; they bought it. What you're looking at there is the Columbia 400. In my opinion, Cessna is not worthy of having their name on the side of that airplane.

Second, the R&D required to transform their twin line to composite material is enormous. They recently nixed their Columbus project. This was to be a biz jet that was going to compete with the ranks of Gulfstream and Falcon; something they've never come close to doing. If they didn't think it was feasible to continue that project, they certainly wouldn't take on another project that wouldn't have nearly as large of a profit margin.
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I did not know that!

Any other players out there who might do a small twin?


Thanks.



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BTW,

when at ATP, I was at meridian mississippi and this guy maybe 15 years older than me dressed in a jumpsuit, hands his leather bound jepp plates to a driver their to meet him while getting out of one of these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancair_Propjet

I took an gander and was wowed by the 325 KTS green line.

I love the twin cessna, but to me, these singles are really blowing it away.
Part of me doesn't want to see them go and I am hoping they will come back as something comparable.

Then again, I am sorry this aircraft went away as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_DH.88


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