Tried my hand at running a flight plan

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A1TAPE

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Hey there I tried my hand at running a flight plan. How does it look? I put in a takeoff alternate due to the marginal wx at CID

KCID - KATL N7277 CITATION X

IOW.MAYIS.CHASY.Q19.BNA.TINCO.DRMMM.DRMM1

TOTAL ROUTE: 731NM WEIGHT 36,100LBS

Q19: 387NM TAXI FUEL 20LBS
CRZ TAS 521KTS 2,914LBS/HR

KCID TAKEOFF FUEL USED
IOW 22MN 04:53 15000 366LBS 270KTS
MAYIS(TOC) 72NM 16:00 35000 951 270KTS
CHASY 30NM 03:25 35000 166 521KTS
Q19 321NM 36:37 35000 1778 521KTS
TINGS(TOD) 103NM 22:28 DES180 1091 275KTS
BNA 28NM 04:48 18000 233 275KTS
KNGGG 39NM 08:31 18000 413 275KTS
THRGD 10NM 02:11 15000 106 275KTS
ROSAA 33NM 07:12 15000 350 275KTS
LUWIS 16MN 02:37 12000 127 275KTS
DRMMM 10NM 02:21 8000 114 255KTS
MRCHH 04NM 01:53 8000 92 255KTS
HIDRO 17NM 04:00 5000 194 255KTS
RAIIN 07NM 01:39 5000 80 255KTS
KLOWD 06NM 01:25 5000 69 255KTS
POORS 08NM 01:53 4000 92 255KTS
KYMMY 05NM 01:11 4000 58 255KTS
TOTALS 387NM 2H03M 6,280LBS USED


TAKEOFF DATA
WEIGHT 36,100
RW LENGTH NEEDED 5,220
FLAPS 15 V SPEEDS
V1 129
VR 133
V2 137


LANDING DATA
WEIGHT 29,820
RW LENGTH NEEDED 3,310 FT
VREF 126 FULL FLAPS


TAKEOFF ALTERNATE KMSP
CID MSP
CID.V503.RST.V82.FGT ETE 42 MIN 15,000 CRZ
SPD 298KTS FUEL TO TO ALT 1,930LBS
 
Well, I’ll touch on the takeoff alternate.

Marginal weather is usually within 100ft or 1/2sm of minimums. I am showing CID at 4sm and OVC009 which may or may not be what you planned it with, I don’t know. But given those conditions, a takeoff alternate is unnecessary as they should have no issues returning to CID. Also, in a situation where one would need to use a takeoff alternate, chances are that there is an emergency, so specific routing need not apply. Go direct, unless of course there is a complex special approach or weather or something of the like in the way.
 
When i planned it the wx was ovc015 and i knew the ils went lower than that but the taf was trending lower each line so thats why i planned the alternate.
 
Real life scenario: SEASFO flight, just after sunrise departure, METAR had a 1 point temp dew point spread, with a sct001 in the TAF 10SM. I gave them PSC as a TO alt. Giving a to alt is no big deal. But I would not give one unless I really suspected wx might drop below cat 1 mins.
 
I'm with Luigi ..

Has anyone ever had anything divert to it's take off alternate? Our crews always laughed at our take off alternates. The comments were always if I loose an engine or I'm on fire I'm landing where I came from even if it's below mins!
 
PlaneFun said:
The comments were always if I loose an engine or I'm on fire I'm landing where I came from even if it's below mins!
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Really? Unless you consider a crash site a landing....you do what’s safe. Whether you loose, or lose an engine (where do they go anyhow?) you do what’s safe. Additionally, a Dispatcher has ZERO role if that happens. Just saying......
 
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flyingmedic said:
Really? Unless you consider a crash site a landing....you do what’s safe. Whether you loose, or lose an engine (where do they go anyhow?) you do what’s safe. Additionally, a Dispatcher has ZERO role if that happens. Just saying......
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Agreed. But the TO alt is for planning and legality purposes. I think from a crew standpoint it’s good to know the dispatcher has thought of it, and having the weather and NOTAMs at hand and readily available is nice.
 
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