Trevor Jacob v2.0

So Trevor Jacob commits several felonies in an airplane, deliberately, and films it, and somehow keeps his ticket.

Meanwhile some poor schmuck is being denied a class three because he had a DUI once 20 years ago, and another guy got sad once when his marriage imploded and made the mistake of seeking therapy so now has to spend 15 grand on cog screens to keep his career.

Great job, FAA. Great •in' job.

Tl;dr: those idiots gave Trevor his PPL back.
 
Fixtur said:
So Trevor Jacob commits several felonies in an airplane, deliberately, and films it, and somehow keeps his ticket.

Meanwhile some poor schmuck is being denied a class three because he had a DUI once 20 years ago, and another guy got sad once when his marriage imploded and made the mistake of seeking therapy so now has to spend 15 grand on cog screens to keep his career.

Great job, FAA. Great •in' job.

Tl;dr: those idiots gave Trevor his PPL back.
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I mean, for what it's worth, he only pleaded to one felony, which is more or less how Justice® goes. Apparently he was running his mouth somewhere demonstrating he learned approximately nothing from the whole affair, but I doubt that anything will come of it. He has until sometime in January to surrender himself, and will be off to Lompoc for 6 months.

I doubt it matters, really, but I do wonder if this offense would constitute a lack of "good moral character" as far as the requirement for an ATP, but.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I mean, for what it's worth, he only pleaded to one felony, which is more or less how Justice® goes. Apparently he was running his mouth somewhere demonstrating he learned approximately nothing from the whole affair, but I doubt that anything will come of it. He has until sometime in January to surrender himself, and will be off to Lompoc for 6 months.

I doubt it matters, really, but I do wonder if this offense would constitute a lack of "good moral character" as far as the requirement for an ATP, but.
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I doubt he cares about his flying career at this point, I think the FAA already revoked (not suspended) all of his airman certs. The problem for him moving forward after his stint in a federal prison (he's going have to serve the whole sentence because the feds don't reduce sentences for good behavior) is he's a convicted felon who committed a crime. That's a roadblock. He's not going to prison for crashing the airplane, he probably would've gotten away with that with a slap on the wrist, he's going to prison for retrieving the wreckage, cutting it into small pieces and discarding it into any number of dumpsters and obstructing the NTSBs and FAA investigations. I've said before that an old man once told me that making a mistake is not okay but it's forgivable, trying to hide a mistake is criminal. That dude FAFO and now it's common knowledge he's dishonest. Who's going to hire him?
 
knot4u said:
I doubt he cares about his flying career at this point, I think the FAA already revoked (not suspended) all of his airman certs. The problem for him moving forward after his stint in a federal prison (he's going have to serve the whole sentence because the feds don't reduce sentences for good behavior) is he's a convicted felon who committed a crime. That's a roadblock. He's not going to prison for crashing the airplane, he probably would've gotten away with that with a slap on the wrist, he's going to prison for retrieving the wreckage, cutting it into small pieces and discarding it into any number of dumpsters and obstructing the NTSBs and FAA investigations. I've said before that an old man once told me that making a mistake is not okay but it's forgivable, trying to hide a mistake is criminal. That dude FAFO and now it's common knowledge he's dishonest. Who's going to hire him?
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They literally gave him his certs back. He flew to and from his court date and posted about it on instagram and YouTube already.


View: https://youtu.be/55JdKOFIecc?si=3I9fvqZDsFRqNGBf
 
Fixtur said:
So Trevor Jacob commits several felonies in an airplane, deliberately, and films it, and somehow keeps his ticket.

Meanwhile some poor schmuck is being denied a class three because he had a DUI once 20 years ago, and another guy got sad once when his marriage imploded and made the mistake of seeking therapy so now has to spend 15 grand on cog screens to keep his career.

Great job, FAA. Great •in' job.

Tl;dr: those idiots gave Trevor his PPL back.
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Id love for someone at the FAA to be able to "workshop" this outloud and try to justify why this guy should fly again.
 
It was pointed out to me that since he'll have to cop to the felony conviction on his next medication it will probably be denied. The old FAA shadow ban.
 
Acrofox said:
... Well, glad to know where I stand with you.
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I think you’d better read the rest of it, because the context really matters for the remainder of that post:

But, as per above, this is A) publicizing the thing, B) the entire point OF the thing, and, most damning, C) either terrorizing randos or pretending to terrorize pretend randos, neither of which is cool or funny. It's "humor" for unusually dim 12 year olds. Which would be dumb but expected and I guess fine (or at least not something to be Outraged about) if they were using a skateboard, but uh they're not.
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There was (and still should be, IMO) a lot more room for that wonderful conduct at the intersection of "harmless" and "youthful jackassery," which was a lot more practical before 1) everything was being recorded by everyone, all the time, 2) everything was simultaneously very stupid and yet somehow very important and 3) social media enabled a degree of industrial and aeronautical narcissism not hitherto experienced, or at least, not as trivially available.

However, I don't consider this conduct to be at that intersection.

Turning now to the related but different topic of doing stupid stuff in airplanes (emphasis added) there's not a pilot who's done this long enough who hasn't, at some point, pulled a really bonehead play and then had to improvise their way out of it, possibly with less than spectacular results. Perhaps it was a stunt, perhaps it was launching into conditions one shouldn't have, or taking an airplane flying that one shouldn't have, and so on. I draw a stark contrast from stupid-willful versus just stupid; just culture does not and has not ever implied a lack of direct individual responsibility and accountability, particularly for stupid-willful.

Mr. Jacob's stunt was stupid, it was willful, and it deserves to be punished. (Probably more than the plea agreement handed out, tbhwy. He's doing some really "client" things here.)
 
NovemberEcho said:
He didn’t even get in trouble for the actual stunt, he got in trouble for moving the wreckage
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I would call certificate suspension and revocation "trouble," myself, but I also depend on my ATP to keep the roof over my head and Dunkin' Donuts chorizo wraps in my belly. It is slightly perverse that there hasn't been more "trouble" for him for the actual stunt.

I hate aviation YouTube so damn much save a few spots and now that Paul Bertorelli's retired I'm wondering how to have the algorithm never serve me another airplane-themed video unless I ask for it, ha!
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I mean, for what it's worth, he only pleaded to one felony, which is more or less how Justice® goes. Apparently he was running his mouth somewhere demonstrating he learned approximately nothing from the whole affair, but I doubt that anything will come of it. He has until sometime in January to surrender himself, and will be off to Lompoc for 6 months.

I doubt it matters, really, but I do wonder if this offense would constitute a lack of "good moral character" as far as the requirement for an ATP, but.
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I think you lose the high ground on "good moral character" as soon as you use a selfie stick for any reason whatsoever
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I would call certificate suspension and revocation "trouble," myself, but I also depend on my ATP to keep the roof over my head and Dunkin' Donuts chorizo wraps in my belly. It is slightly perverse that there hasn't been more "trouble" for him for the actual stunt.

I hate aviation YouTube so damn much save a few spots and now that Paul Bertorelli's retired I'm wondering how to have the algorithm never serve me another airplane-themed video unless I ask for it, ha!
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Paul was a treasure. I knew when AC sold out to whatever it is that passes for Flying that the last Joe Bag’O’Donuts consumer oriented publication was done.
 
Don’t get me wrong. I am not mad at them cashing out. It was time and they’re ahead of the curve on this one.

Sad as it is, and however many times over the years it’s been said, I feel that the book is finally closing on GA as a “consumer commodity”. Shops are closing, the myriad number of specialty shops (mags, props, gearboxes, overhaul, etc etc) closing or consolidating. Parts are finally starting to run dry as the last of the “NOS” caches are burned through. FBOs and airports are pushing out pistons as fast as they can to bulldoze hangars for corporate. 100LL is done as a soon as they can pull the plug.

GA won’t be for the common person, very similar to how the muscle car scene evolved from your dad tinkering in the garage with a grease stained catalog in the corner, to cars costing hundreds of thousands and the yards picked clean of any remotely viable carcasses. It will be for the super wealthy only, and that will further drive the collapse of the industry.

This coming from a life long GA fan.
 
Richman said:
Don’t get me wrong. I am not mad at them cashing out. It was time and they’re ahead of the curve on this one.

Sad as it is, and however many times over the years it’s been said, I feel that the book is finally closing on GA as a “consumer commodity”. Shops are closing, the myriad number of specialty shops (mags, props, gearboxes, overhaul, etc etc) closing or consolidating. Parts are finally starting to run dry as the last of the “NOS” caches are burned through. FBOs and airports are pushing out pistons as fast as they can to bulldoze hangars for corporate. 100LL is done as a soon as they can pull the plug.

GA won’t be for the common person, very similar to how the muscle car scene evolved from your dad tinkering in the garage with a grease stained catalog in the corner, to cars costing hundreds of thousands and the yards picked clean of any remotely viable carcasses. It will be for the super wealthy only, and that will further drive the collapse of the industry.

This coming from a life long GA fan.
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The olds got to (expletive) around and everyone now gets to find out.
 
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