TransPac Skype Interview

tcco94

Future GTA VI Pilot
Wondering if any guys have gone through this in the last year or so? I don't wanna stress it too much but just wondering if the technical questions are tricky or anything?

I'm teaching rectangular course and they are giving me an approach plate the day before.

Honestly, any help would be appreciated! I really want to do good and work here!

Thanks
 
I have nothing of value to add other than you should do the interview in a nice shirt and tie. But that's it. They'd never know.
 
I have nothing of value to add other than you should do the interview in a nice shirt and tie. But that's it. They'd never know.
Yeah I was planning on already treating it like a real interview with the tie and pants and clean shaven and what not. I just assume to treat it as if I was actually with them.

Just don't stand up!

They shouldn't throw you any curve balls, they just want to see that you have the ability to teach.

Sweet, thanks. I don't want to over think it too much and considering I've taken two checkrides for CFI/CFII in the last two weeks I feel somewhat confident that it's still in my noggin pretty good.
 
Review the airplane flying handbook to teach the rectangular course. The Skype interview is new, never heard of that before (I'm a long time gone from tpac, but the interview subjects were the same.) I think if you show good subject matter knowledge and a true desire for your student to understand, you'll do well. They had me teach something and I just taught it like a real lesson with them acting as my students. Good luck, you'll do great.
 
Got offered the job. Going to the Nov. 2nd class (couldn't rush for the Oct 5th in time)...

Offering $28,000 salary - 10 hour duty days max with 2 consecutive days off - $3k sign-on bonus option (w/ 12 month contract) --- if anyone else is interested PM me and I'll help ya out.

Thanks for your guys help, I'm pretty stoked!
 
tcco94 said:
Got offered the job. Going to the Nov. 2nd class (couldn't rush for the Oct 5th in time)... Offering $28,000 salary - 10 hour duty days max with 2 consecutive days off - $3k sign-on bonus option (w/ 12 month contract) --- if anyone else is interested PM me and I'll help ya out. Thanks for your guys help, I'm pretty stoked!
CONGRATS!!!
 
A friend of mine is an television meteorologist and he did that frequently. Shirt, tie, jacket with gym shorts and sandals.
 
Got offered the job. Going to the Nov. 2nd class (couldn't rush for the Oct 5th in time)...

Offering $28,000 salary - 10 hour duty days max with 2 consecutive days off - $3k sign-on bonus option (w/ 12 month contract) --- if anyone else is interested PM me and I'll help ya out.

Thanks for your guys help, I'm pretty stoked!

So what was the interview like? What did they ask?
 
Two biggest tips that helped me during my time at tpac (and have probably been repeated plenty of other places, so just to reiterate):

1. Ask questions that require the student to demonstrate understanding. Yes/no, or "do you understand?" won't cut it. Rather, "why?" or "explain x to me...". Also, put on your best poker face when you ask a question, these guys are awesome at fishing around to figure out what you want them to say. Make them commit to an answer, then fix what's incorrect.

2. Remember your students' job is to try to kill you in the most creative and head-scratchingly bizarre ways possible, especially if you ever let your attention lapse for a second (even after 9.5 hours in the phx heat). They are awesome guys but don't necessarily always show common sense. They have to have the controls 99% of the time in order to learn, but always watch how things are progressing and be ready at the critical moments (while at the same time not showing that you're guarding the controls, they have to think they are in control). Had a guy drop the yoke completely and turn towards me to ask a question (had it trimmed quite nose down, too) right at the moment he should have started his roundout/flare; had I not been ready we would have faceplanted hard, probably not in a survivable way. *Insert many other stories here.* Basically, watch your back.

Otherwise, have fun, learn from everyone, put in the effort, and it'll be a rewarding experience. No better feeling than getting a guy who's never driven a car before to his checkride and having him pass. Congrats on the new job!
 
So what was the interview like? What did they ask?
Did some extra HR questions like have you failed a checkride, are you currently working, when do you want to start if this interview goes well? Those sorts of questions but most were on the phone and why we should hire you.

Then we moved onto my lesson. Taught rectangular course with a whiteboard for about 5 minutes. They proceeded to ask some questions regarding the lesson, weather, aerodynamics (maneuvering speed to CFI level), IFR FAR's, and an approach plate with some basic IFR questions. Pretty straight forward. I can give you more details PM if you'd like.

Two biggest tips that helped me during my time at tpac (and have probably been repeated plenty of other places, so just to reiterate):

1. Ask questions that require the student to demonstrate understanding. Yes/no, or "do you understand?" won't cut it. Rather, "why?" or "explain x to me...". Also, put on your best poker face when you ask a question, these guys are awesome at fishing around to figure out what you want them to say. Make them commit to an answer, then fix what's incorrect.

2. Remember your students' job is to try to kill you in the most creative and head-scratchingly bizarre ways possible, especially if you ever let your attention lapse for a second (even after 9.5 hours in the phx heat). They are awesome guys but don't necessarily always show common sense. They have to have the controls 99% of the time in order to learn, but always watch how things are progressing and be ready at the critical moments (while at the same time not showing that you're guarding the controls, they have to think they are in control). Had a guy drop the yoke completely and turn towards me to ask a question (had it trimmed quite nose down, too) right at the moment he should have started his roundout/flare; had I not been ready we would have faceplanted hard, probably not in a survivable way. *Insert many other stories here.* Basically, watch your back.

Otherwise, have fun, learn from everyone, put in the effort, and it'll be a rewarding experience. No better feeling than getting a guy who's never driven a car before to his checkride and having him pass. Congrats on the new job!

Thanks a lot for the help. Heard a lot about #2 but probably good thing that you made a point of #1, because my go to question is "do you understand what I'm saying"... I'll have to have them explain it to me like an oral setting I guess then.

Thanks a lot to everyone here! You guys have helped tremendously through my process!
 
Congrats on the job! I will echo what @KatanaHawk said. These guys are excellent at memorizing answers, it's their culture to do so, just so then can pass a test. However flying isn't about memorizing an answer. You will have to force them to think about what they are doing. And force them to work thru a problem (when do you need an alternate under IFR is a good example).

Assign them some homework when you can. Make some handouts, or just have them study something after every flight. Keep them thinking. Ground School doesn't cover enough at times and it's worth taking the extra time to teach things pre/post flight brief to make sure they understand. They will do much better in the program if you put forth the little extra effort.

It's a fun, frustrating, scary, rewarding job. Be prepared to fly and work a lot, and learn a lot! Enjoy!
 
Be sure to compliment Gene on his epic stash.
I'll try to find it! Lol thanks for the advice guys.

I'll definitely spend my next few weeks studying up the material. Not sure how proficient they expect for day 1 of stanz class but I'll try to be at least comfortable enough for myself with their knowledge. I am very much looking forward to kick starting my career here.
 
Offering $28,000 salary - 10 hour duty days max with 2 consecutive days off - $3k sign-on bonus option (w/ 12 month contract) --- if anyone else is interested PM me and I'll help ya out.
Damn, so comes down to a ballpark figure of $11ish a work hour(pre-tax) to teach non-native English speakers the foundation of their flying skills from which they will build upon for the rest of their careers transporting hundreds of thousands of people across the world as airline pilots? Seriously, your first student could be the next Al Haynes in the left seat of a stricken and fully-loaded 777-300ER in 2046 thinking back to the original theory of flight as you taught it to him. That's BS. I know, get your time and get out, and I respect the hell out of those of you who do it and make it work, but seriously? Now, what I'm about to type out is not aimed at your nor any other person individually. It's for everyone starting out in a flying career.

Put this into perspective, the importance of what you're doing and how much money the school has to be making from the contracts with these carriers. CFI's make $65-80/hr(pre-tax) out here to teach bored techies, doctors, and the like how to fly for a few weeks at a time before they throw in the towel or become a weekend warrior long enough to get laid a few times and then stop flying altogether. Sure, very few of them fly as much as a TransPac CFI, but I'll guarantee they still come out ahead financially. And these knuckleheads think it's all good in the hood to barely dish out $10/hr to you guys? I swear, pilots are their own worse enemies by taking these jobs. You are your own best leverage. I know everyone wants to move on, now is a magical time where most hit 1,500 and eventually get at least an interview with the carrier of their choice. But why the hell should you have to starve to get there when there are so many options to build time that pay decently and are a lot less work? Yes, I know, seniority is everything. I get that. But even if you need time fast, there are options out there like survey that will work you just as hard or harder but pay you accordingly.

Unity. It is the one thing that can save the profession. Not whining to Joe books-a-10-hour-layover-to-save-$25 Smith about pilot pay or going to the media. Unity. Look at Great Lakes. What's happening there? They have one of the hardest 121 gigs you can find out there, flying through all kinds of terrain and weather in a B1900 with no autopilot. Yet they pay jack poo-poo. Well, now that there are so many options to a pilot qualified for Lakes 121 ops, almost NO ONE wants to fly there and they're going to hell in a hand basket. So, what is the difference between this and that? Logic says if an employer offers a job and no one is willing to do it for the wages, that employer either has to close shop or raise wages to attract qualified workers. You guys are freggin' Commercial Pilots/Flight Instructors. The world is your damn oyster, why would you sell yourselves short like this? Each of us is an individual who makes our own choices and decisions in this life. Does any commercial pilot think all they are worth is $28k a year agreeing to 50 hour weeks? No. There are other options that will lead to just as much networking, knowledge, and stick and rudder skills. It is not take a gig like this or kiss your dreams of professional flying goodbye. If people were honest with themselves and their self worth, these kind of gigs would disappear or pay a hell of a lot better. It all starts with you.

Again, by no means at all is this a slam on anyone there. You guys are CFI's, I'm a 220 hour private pilot. You've already accomplished more than I have in flying. People starting out in this career seem to have blinders, like a train with too much inertia to stop focused solely on getting that flight time wherever they can. In this, they forget that the world doesn't cease to go about it's business. Any one of them(us) could be dead tomorrow so they need to get the best they can NOW while working towards their goals of tomorrow. And that is no one's fault, it is the way most of us are wired. Best of luck, and I do mean that. However, I hope you keep this in the back of your head. I don't know you but I'd bet you're worth a hell of a lot more than that. Try and see the big picture. The world NEEDS pilots. Mass drone transports are at least decades upon decades away. Air commerce keeps the modern world a float. Now who is more important than the people training the pilots of tomorrow?

Know your worth.
 
Damn, so comes down to a ballpark figure of $11ish a work hour(pre-tax) to teach non-native English speakers the foundation of their flying skills from which they will build upon for the rest of their careers transporting hundreds of thousands of people across the world as airline pilots? Seriously, your first student could be the next Al Haynes in the left seat of a stricken and fully-loaded 777-300ER in 2046 thinking back to the original theory of flight as you taught it to him. That's BS. I know, get your time and get out, and I respect the hell out of those of you who do it and make it work, but seriously? Now, what I'm about to type out is not aimed at your nor any other person individually. It's for everyone starting out in a flying career.

Put this into perspective, the importance of what you're doing and how much money the school has to be making from the contracts with these carriers. CFI's make $65-80/hr(pre-tax) out here to teach bored techies, doctors, and the like how to fly for a few weeks at a time before they throw in the towel or become a weekend warrior long enough to get laid a few times and then stop flying altogether. Sure, very few of them fly as much as a TransPac CFI, but I'll guarantee they still come out ahead financially. And these knuckleheads think it's all good in the hood to barely dish out $10/hr to you guys? I swear, pilots are their own worse enemies by taking these jobs. You are your own best leverage. I know everyone wants to move on, now is a magical time where most hit 1,500 and eventually get at least an interview with the carrier of their choice. But why the hell should you have to starve to get there when there are so many options to build time that pay decently and are a lot less work? Yes, I know, seniority is everything. I get that. But even if you need time fast, there are options out there like survey that will work you just as hard or harder but pay you accordingly.

Unity. It is the one thing that can save the profession. Not whining to Joe books-a-10-hour-layover-to-save-$25 Smith about pilot pay or going to the media. Unity. Look at Great Lakes. What's happening there? They have one of the hardest 121 gigs you can find out there, flying through all kinds of terrain and weather in a B1900 with no autopilot. Yet they pay jack poo-poo. Well, now that there are so many options to a pilot qualified for Lakes 121 ops, almost NO ONE wants to fly there and they're going to hell in a hand basket. So, what is the difference between this and that? Logic says if an employer offers a job and no one is willing to do it for the wages, that employer either has to close shop or raise wages to attract qualified workers. You guys are freggin' Commercial Pilots/Flight Instructors. The world is your damn oyster, why would you sell yourselves short like this? Each of us is an individual who makes our own choices and decisions in this life. Does any commercial pilot think all they are worth is $28k a year agreeing to 50 hour weeks? No. There are other options that will lead to just as much networking, knowledge, and stick and rudder skills. It is not take a gig like this or kiss your dreams of professional flying goodbye. If people were honest with themselves and their self worth, these kind of gigs would disappear or pay a hell of a lot better. It all starts with you.

Again, by no means at all is this a slam on anyone there. You guys are CFI's, I'm a 220 hour private pilot. You've already accomplished more than I have in flying. People starting out in this career seem to have blinders, like a train with too much inertia to stop focused solely on getting that flight time wherever they can. In this, they forget that the world doesn't cease to go about it's business. Any one of them(us) could be dead tomorrow so they need to get the best they can NOW while working towards their goals of tomorrow. And that is no one's fault, it is the way most of us are wired. Best of luck, and I do mean that. However, I hope you keep this in the back of your head. I don't know you but I'd bet you're worth a hell of a lot more than that. Try and see the big picture. The world NEEDS pilots. Mass drone transports are at least decades upon decades away. Air commerce keeps the modern world a float. Now who is more important than the people training the pilots of tomorrow?

Know your worth.
You're probably right that there are many locations where I could work less and make more money. I could work more with a better hour wage, as well. I would rather have a salary (even if it is 28k) to survive off, rather then hoping and praying the weather is good enough so I can skimp my student of money. Worst of all, the instructors who do it anyways and say "Let's try it", knowing full in well that they can't fly. Keep the engine running for an hour tho gets him $25. There are definitely pros and cons and working for $11.60 hour wage is not a pro at all. With my $90,000 student loans, rent, insurance, bills, etc. Myself personally would rather have a salary then gambling in other locations across the nation that the weather was good and that I actually had students that showed up in the first place to make money.

I know my worth but I've tried to play that game. Most flight schools won't do negotiations like I had hoped. It was either "here's your pay or go somewhere else". I realize we are all our own worst enemies and especially in the regional sector but I imagine me standing up against them to revolt isn't going to make any impact as the 100 guys behind me will take the job too.

Either way, by no means am I bragging about my pay. I know it's not a lot but there are MANY flight instructors that I know throughout my training who've made significantly less then that and were working full time. I just think of it as a pick and choose your battles. There are many American students who are worse than international students, as well. Probably not as bad as the college atmosphere is but I liked TransPac and I use to make about $30k as a ramp agent and could make it work. This just made me more comfortable for the flight time they'll give me and the general happiness everyone has from coming from that company.

Of course if I instructed millionaires in SFO or LAX, I could probably live comfortable enough at $40k and fly just as much in Phoenix. Those are all valid statements against my reasoning, but again, just gotta pick and choose your battles. I guarantee when I go work for a regional and actually probably take a pay cut then people will be saying I'm stupid and I should fight the system. I have played into the picture and by no means did I just take the first job at highest number I saw. I outweighed my options and thought this place would probably suit my personality and lifestyle more. I like to work too. Some don't. I don't really have a "right" answer against all your valid statements. Anyone can definitely feel free to judge away at me for taking this job, but at the end of the day I'm happy where I am at in my career and very much look forward to teaching.
 
You gotta do what you gotta do man. Flight instructing at any school has its pro's and cons. You have to do what works best for you and your career. However, while you're instructing make sure you're not just there just for the time, and you're working hard to make your student a better pilot as a reflection of who you are as a pilot. Also don't forget to have fun while you're at it. Every step in the process of becoming a pilot who you will be someday starts with every bit of flying you did before that. Congrats on the job! Also, be careful out there. There's been quite a few mid-airs out there in the Phoenix area since it's such a hotbed for training activity.
 
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