Transition from a Piper Seminole to Seneca

[Wm226]

Hi All,

What are the major differences and similarities?


Thanks!

 

[CRJDriver]

The transition should be fairly easy. Little more power, little heavier on the nose.

 

[upup89]

I guess if your Seminole didn't have the turbos then that'd be something to become familiar with.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

I guess if your Seminole didn't have the turbos then that'd be something to become familiar with.

Depends. He could be in a Seneca I, with out the turbo's. Which probably would be a 50/50 bet, if its a training airplane. Hate to be running training with turbo's.

 

[upup89]

Depends. He could be in a Seneca I, with out the turbo's. Which probably would be a 50/50 bet, if its a training airplane. Hate to be running training with turbo's.

True. I guess I just assumed he was getting checked out in one.

 

[minitour]

Depends. He could be in a Seneca I, with out the turbo's. Which probably would be a 50/50 bet, if its a training airplane. Hate to be running training with turbo's.

Oh, it's not that bad. You just keep the power way back for 99% of the flight and only let them push it up for takeoff/go around. Works pretty well...everything just happens a little slower.

-mini

 

[MOONWOLF]

6 seats instead of 4?

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

True. I guess I just assumed he was getting checked out in one.

That could be true too. Guess we sit and wait.

Oh, it's not that bad. You just keep the power way back for 99% of the flight and only let them push it up for takeoff/go around. Works pretty well...everything just happens a little slower.

I'd agree with that. I recently got checked out in a Turbo Arrow, for no real reason, other than to learn to how to deal with the turbo's. Nothing hard about it, just have to make sure you are indeed paying attention, rather than just jamming the throttles to the stops.

 

[PA44-LUV]

I did the transition from the Seminole to the Seneca I (non-turbo) and the only real difference I noticed was on landing. Noseheaviness and extreme sluggishness/lack of control effectiveness on the ailerons.

 

[minitour]

I'd agree with that. I recently got checked out in a Turbo Arrow, for no real reason, other than to learn to how to deal with the turbo's. Nothing hard about it, just have to make sure you are indeed paying attention, rather than just jamming the throttles to the stops.

Just don't run it over square or shock cool it and you'll be alright.

.......now where'd I put that sarcasm smiley?

-mini

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

Just don't run it over square or shock cool it and you'll be alright.

.......now where'd I put that sarcasm smiley?

-mini

Uh oh, time to pull out the opcorn:

 

[Baronman]

Consider using the 2nd notch of flaps for landing rather than full. This is how we normally landed...

As was said above, the plane is nose heavy especially without passengers in the back. A little less flaps helps keep the nose up without having much of a performance penalty on landing speeds.

You'll see there isn't much clearance between the props and the ground, the danger with hitting the nose is getting into an occillation and smacking a prop.

 

[sopdan]

Learned in a Seneca IV, later flew the Seminole a little bit.

Differences? The Seneca is all around much, much cooler. (as in awesome, and in a literal sense, if it's got A/C)

Glad I could be of help.

 

[TFaudree_ERAU]

.......now where'd I put that sarcasm smiley?

I think I saw it over on the shelf by the prop wash.

 

[minitour]

I think I saw it over on the shelf by the prop wash.

Thanks! There it was. Hiding behind the flight line.

-mini

 

[Roger, Roger]

Thanks! There it was. Hiding behind the flight line.

-mini

The shelf right next to the elbow grease.

 

[mrivc211]

The transition should be fairly easy. Little more power, little heavier on the nose.

Pretty much how I remember it from 2002ish when I last flew the two together

 

[Lee D]

Pretty much how I remember it from 2002ish when I last flew the two together

Yeah ditto to the heaver in the nose thing, but only when you don't have any weight in the back. The Seneca flares nicely if someone is ridding in the back. It does better single engine, but you probably won't notice anything spectacular.