TRANS STATES AIRLINES

Question...

A new hire can come to training for 2 days. Is this 2 days of Indoc? Or two days of ground school? Get a seniority, leave for up to 90 days, then come back to complete the rest of their training (GS, SIM, IOE, etc)? Am I reading that right?
 
ScorpionStinger said:
Question...

A new hire can come to training for 2 days. Is this 2 days of Indoc? Or two days of ground school? Get a seniority, leave for up to 90 days, then come back to complete the rest of their training (GS, SIM, IOE, etc)? Am I reading that right?
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Basically get all your background checks out of the way. When I started 3 years ago, it took 4 days to get to ground school stuff. If you don't come back, I was told it is a failure on your pria.
 
Box hauler said:
Plenty of plans to grow, we have parked airplanes right now because we need new guys. As soon as we can staff all of our current flying upgrade opportunity will increase as well.
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A lot of airlines have plans to grow right now. And none of us can find the new hires to do so... Plans don't equal actual growth.
 
chrisreedrules said:
A lot of airlines have plans to grow right now. And none of us can find the new hires to do so... Plans don't equal actual growth.
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Yeah that's what I meant to say in a round about way. I have a feeling our flying is about to shift west in the near future.
 
Good company...was on reserve for about 3 weeks then got a line. Been here well over a year and don't mind it at all.
Old airplane? Yep.
Problem getting FOs in? Who doesn't have that issue today!
Upgrade at 12 months? Meh not really...more like 18-24.

But ya know what? No one plans to stay at a regional forever. Get in, get your time, get OUT! The longer you sit and wait and decide it may be the death of you. To me, I didn't care what planes I flew, where I had layovers, or what color of paint was on the side. I'm here to get the time, upgrade, and move on. That's what a mindset should be at a regional, cuz management expects that.
 
I've been at TSA a little over a year. Things overall were good. No wait on sims or OE and I spent two months total on reserve. Based in STL my first three months before being awarded my base of choice in IAD. Pay is decent and schedules are OK.... Not great, but not the worst.

The problems are as follows:

The COO announced two weeks ago that IAD will see a draw down. It is a direct result of CommutAir's IAD expansion and their 145s coming online. So anyone wanting an IAD base should not consider TSA. I myself may leave if I am placed on, essentially, permanent reserve or am displaced.

Major staffing problems... But this is true at most regionals now. Airplanes parked at the hanger in STL for lack of crews. Upgrade times have increased. I would say a new hire today should expect 24 months minimum (from release of IOE) if not more.

Reserve min days off = 10. No Bueno.

If you live in one of our domiciles other than IAD, could be a good place to come. But explore your options and do your research.
 
Lawman said:
http://www.transstates.net/careers/Pages/Rotor-to-Wings.aspx

Looks like the Army is really gonna need to step up its retention game.

I know you guys baulk at a lot of the QOL and have every reason to, but for guys doing back to back year long deployments just about anything is gonna look enticing.


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The AA wholly owned have had the rotor transition for a year or two I believe. Supposedly a decent source of pilots at envoy from what I hear.
 
FlyinSol0 said:
The AA wholly owned have had the rotor transition for a year or two I believe. Supposedly a decent source of pilots at envoy from what I hear.
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I'm very much considering it and I'm one of the more devout Army aviators amongst most of my compatriots. At this point a career change within the Army or a significant change in my life requirements (say suddenly having twins) is about all that's gonna keep me around.

That should say a lot about the state of the damn bursting on a sudden flood of pilots out of the Army toward these rotary wing transition programs.


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I've flown with quite a few FOs lately that were military rotor guys. You definitely have to be a bit more mindful flying with a guy that only has around 300 fixed wing and 80 multi. TSA also isn't known for spoon feeding you in training so it's a steep learning curve for a lot of those guys.
 
flyinggreasemnky said:
I've flown with quite a few FOs lately that were military rotor guys. You definitely have to be a bit more mindful flying with a guy that only has around 300 fixed wing and 80 multi. TSA also isn't known for spoon feeding you in training so it's a steep learning curve for a lot of those guys.
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Compared to a C152 driver/instructor, with no FMS or Turbine operation skills and experiences???

I think Rotor guys are great stick & rudder seat of the pants flyers. More familiar with automation and complexity of Flight Deck vs a Flight Instructor.

Great move by WO'd and TSA IMHO... No spoon feeding will be required. I've gone through training with them, they've been pretty solid & know now to study. Maybe u had a bad experience with 1, don't let that bleed off into the rest. U had an anomaly if that is the case. Rotor folks are on point.

Btw... Not long ago thousands of 250/hrs TT wet commercial pilots were getting hired to fly RJ's... They seemed to turn out alright.
 
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ScorpionStinger said:
Compared to a C152 driver/instructor, with no FMS or Turbine operation skills and experiences???

I think Rotor guys are great stick & rudder seat of the pants flyers. More familiar with automation and complexity of Flight Deck vs a Flight Instructor.

Great move by WO'd and TSA IMHO... No spoon feeding will be required. I've gone through training with them, they've been pretty solid & know now to study. Maybe u had a bad experience with 1, don't let that bleed off into the rest. U had an anomaly if that is the case. Rotor folks are on point.

Btw... Not long ago thousands of 250/hrs TT wet commercial pilots were getting hired to fly RJ's... They seemed to turn out alright.
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The CFIs generally are better at landing the airplane than the rotor guys especially in crosswinds. Its not a small sampling of people either; I've probably flown with 10 different rotor guys in the past 4 months alone. Those pilots hired at 250 hours were a handful for their captains just as the rotor guys hired with 300 fixed are. Just because it "turned out alright" doesn't mean its safe; there is a reason the law was changed. Not saying they are awful pilots but they are a lot more work for their captain. As far as FMS and automation, age is a big factor in how quickly they become proficient at it. The younger guys generally pick it up quick, as its less complicated then their cell phones. The CFI probably has the advantage as he is probably younger and used to operating a 430 or flying some glass cockpit Cirrus or Diamond. Rotor guys also tend to struggle more with managing the aircraft's momentum.
 
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