Champcar
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no one called you a bad american, dont take everything to heart
Trans-Atlantic Terror Threat Busted
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surreal1221
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I know you didn't. Champcar felt the need to call everyone of us who disagree with the knee-jerk reaction as poor Americans.
Champcar,
I am doing what I feel is right. I've already spoken to all of my elected officials, for the state of South Carolina, and Georgia.
I'm getting my opinion heard, because I am un-happy with the way this country is being ran. I'm sorry but I'm not an elected official, so I can't exactly have my plan put in place. You follow? That's not how this country works.
What are you doing?
When Bill went through security this morning, flight crews were not yet exempt. I'm not sure what he ended updoing with his stuff, but I know he doesn't carry much in the way of liquids in his bags anyway. Just hairgel, toothpaste, etc.
I'll be curious to see how his day went! He's supposed to get to his overnight in an hour or so.
I'll be curious to see how his day went! He's supposed to get to his overnight in an hour or so.
SeanD
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Most of us dont agree either. I hate our President but I love this country and will obey what ever new rules are put in place to keep me and everyone else safe. Knee jerk or not this is a wake up call for all of us. These people still hate us and will stop at nothing to get to us. We need to remember that everyday. Yeah that sucks but that is the world we live in now.
if inconvenience costs ME money... your damn right i'd be pissed....the stuff they're asking everyone to throw away adds up financially...if inconvenice costs me time, that's something i can deal with.
think the commuting regional guys are saying "awww, it's only $2"...$2 adds up over time!!
hell, i betcha a ton of women are having a conniption today because their $30 liquid foundation has to be thrown away with no compensation, even contact lens solution or anything medicinal like cough syrup...even the cheapest stuff is $5 a pop!! inconvience is one thing but when it's costing people a small fortune compounded with other prices that have gone up like gas - we're gonna have a big problem on our hands!
surreal1221
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Isn't that why men and women in my position are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Thankfully NATO is taking control of Afghanistan in the next coming months. But Iraq?
Yup, we are really protecting ourselves by fighting them over there, as opposed to fighting them here.
It is the world we live in. But we have the power of the vote, of a movement. If we are unhappy with how things are wrong we are (still thankfully) able to voice our dissenting opinions.
Champcar
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Pretty sure i've never done that. What i was saying was you are acting as if it is a bad thing that you are living in this free country and that you are beeing inconvenienced by your constant crying.
Champcar
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So lets forget about security becasue $30 of makeup is so much more important. Wow our priorities are still the same.
surreal1221
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So it's now a bad thing to try to protect individual's rights and civil liberties?
I'll end on this note.
Why, once again, we are not actually focusing on the problems before hand to actually provide sufficient protection to our citizens. Instead, we have kneejerk, off the cuff, reactions to information.
Just makes you wonder if our own government had a clue about this. And if they did, I can guarentee you that you would not see a paranoied driven reaction like we see today.
pilot602
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The "undetectable" substances are now just going into the underside ofthe aircraft. They aren't being banned completely. THAT is the point. If they are still being allowed on the aircraft and can't be "detected" what the HEL is the point of barring them from the cabin. THERE IS NO POINT.
and THAT is the point.
I don't think everything liquid had to be thrown away, it just had to be checked. If you were a pax, you could just check your bag, and you were out nothing $-wise. (The liquid items in question this morning were separate items that had to be mixed to be explosive.)
Bill's F/As checked their bags so they wouldn't have to mail themselves anything or throw anything away. My guess is a working crew (especially commuter/regional crew at an outstation) could have left some stuff with the local station people and picked it up later or had it mailed to them.
We'll see a bit later here what the final fallout is going to be, if this liquid ban is going to remain, or if they'll just keep crews exempt or what. In the UK this morning NO carryons were being allowed, everything was having to be checked. Imagine boarding an international flight, and only be allowed a small clear plastic bag with your ID, money, and personal effects essential to the flight time!
Bill's F/As checked their bags so they wouldn't have to mail themselves anything or throw anything away. My guess is a working crew (especially commuter/regional crew at an outstation) could have left some stuff with the local station people and picked it up later or had it mailed to them.
We'll see a bit later here what the final fallout is going to be, if this liquid ban is going to remain, or if they'll just keep crews exempt or what. In the UK this morning NO carryons were being allowed, everything was having to be checked. Imagine boarding an international flight, and only be allowed a small clear plastic bag with your ID, money, and personal effects essential to the flight time!
bike21
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I especially like how the goverment/media is so spectacularly talking about this story. Perhaps we all would have been better off with simple information about a terror plot was foiled and all could be well. Carry on. But no, our government is using this as yet another scare tactic (hence waiting until the last minute) to take away more of our liberties and spread paranoia. This is exactly what the a$$holes want. Disrupt our way of life and economy. Don't get me wrong, I am all about security but common sense and cool heads need to prevail. I really hope they get the investigation done quickly and things return to 'normal'.
I feel really bad for all commuters if they start sticking the rule to us. Commuting in uniform sucks, cause "no Mr. passenger I don't know where the flight to Houston is."
I feel really bad for all commuters if they start sticking the rule to us. Commuting in uniform sucks, cause "no Mr. passenger I don't know where the flight to Houston is."
Champcar
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Well then all electronics would have to be banned from the aircraft. Watch what happens when you take people iPods and laptops away.
pilot602
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Oh you "poor American" ... what's a little inconvienence for safety!?
Again .. they arenm't taking away or banning anything. They're just shoving would be explosives (that they can't detect) into a highly flammable area with little/suspect fire detection/suppression.
ready2fly
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While I see your point, I really don't see any long term effects of folks having to "throw away" their toiletries. Short term - as in today and for the next couple of days until everyone is "on line".
It's simple. Just check them through with your luggage. Just don't carry them on board any more.
Champcar
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I dont care, I'm just saying you think people are mad now about their lipstick
ready2fly
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Hey, I'm cool with it. I don't use my computer when I'm dead-heading, nor do I even own an iPod. So, it's no skin off my nose. I either sleep, or read.
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