Trainer: Cessna vs Piper

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and flying a high-wing plane teaches you to continue to fly the plane after you have landed.


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Hate to break it to you, but if you stop flying the plane after you have landed in ANY plane, you could be in for a world of hurt. Low wing/high wing - doesn't matter where the wing is.

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That meant there high-wing aircraft are more susceptible to a crosswind than low-wing, and that once a low-wing aircraft settles to the runway, it tends to stay there more often than high-wing (e.g. less bounce). I did not mean for anyone to take my statement as trying to say you could simply take your hands and feet off the controls.
 
So, basically... take the cheapest one... which is the cessna... and it is also cooler.

Hey Kyle, sorry I havent spoken at you in a while, been pretty busy around here. Im starting the IR next month, ill be looking for a safety pilot over at PDK, if you are down. Email me!
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Back from my second lesson. Wow, I think I spent about 5 hours at the airport!
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The warrior is out because of a broken seat belt. So instead we took out the GPS equiped cessna w/ a speed kit, it has winglet type things but they go down instead of up. Man this thing is fast, my instructor says it makes training a little tougher. I won't be training on it. It turns out they do have a couple C152's in the fleet it's just that they're always being rented because they're inexpensive. 2.6 hours logged...
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What are your goals. Plan on flying anything larger in the future? Not many high wing aircraft have more than 6 seats. Start working towards your goals as soon, and as easy as possible.

Where are you flying out of? Seeing as how you are in the bay area, there are lots of options.

Personally, I'd say go for cheap as well. But am toward the piper side. You can see more (who cares what is below your tire, you shouldn't be looking there on landings anyhow
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) than in a typical high wing. They may get hot on the ground, but the vents work fine when the big fan up front starts turning. Door works just fine on all the Piper built aircraft I've ever been in, and I can leave it open just as easy as a door on a Cessna aircraft.

I instruct in a Tomahawk, 150, 182, Warrior, and Archer, and have no issues really with any of them. The 182 maybe is a bit much for a new student, as it is faster, and has a couple extra things to deal with.
If I have a choice, I'd put a new student in a Tomahawk if they will fit. Next would be Warrior/Archer. (Then a 172 if we ever get one out here again). The 150 is just too cramped for anyone 50 and about 5' tall to do what I feel is comfortable, worthwhile training, but some people like it.

If I really had a choice, and had it, I'd train everyone in a Aeronca Champ, or a Citabria. Back seat visibility sucks in those planes, but the student sits up front, and gets a nice view.
 
My goal is to get my PPL this summer. Do I plan on flying anything larger? Well, I wouldn't mind flying an airliner. Seriously though I plan on making flying one of those "careers". I fly out of OAK but really don't plan on looking any further for training, it's only a 5-10 minute drive from home. I really would prefer to learn in a four-seater but I could do some of the initial hours in a 152. If when I try out the warrior I find that I really like it, I will probably go with it. Hopefully I won't be basing the decision on a window...
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The warrior is out because of a broken seat belt.

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You DO know that they can fix that, right?
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The warrior is out because of a broken seat belt.

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You DO know that they can fix that, right?
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Ah, but will they?
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Just use a few paper clips, like all college students do. A regular #2 Pencil and some duct tape makes for a good throttle! Join us next week for chrisesp living.
 
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"10 Great Uses for Snack Mix"


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10: Mash into tiny pieces and use for birdfood
9: Keep a large supply in your trunk in the winter to use for traction in the snow.
8: Finely ground it makes a wonderful facial exfoliant
7: Use large bags of it to smack around unruly passengers
6: Teething babies find the slick packaging nice to chew on
5: String individual pieces together for a lovely Christmas garland
4: Use leftover wrapping for a beautiful decoupage
3: Spray paint pieces and sprinkle around the house
2: Use in place of that annoying confetti in gift cards
1: If you're really, really hungry, you can even eat it!
 
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10: Mash into tiny pieces and use for birdfood
9: Keep a large supply in your trunk in the winter to use for traction in the snow.
8: Finely ground it makes a wonderful facial exfoliant
7: Use large bags of it to smack around unruly passengers
6: Teething babies find the slick packaging nice to chew on
5: String individual pieces together for a lovely Christmas garland
4: Use leftover wrapping for a beautiful decoupage
3: Spray paint pieces and sprinkle around the house
2: Use in place of that annoying confetti in gift cards
1: If you're really, really hungry, you can even eat it!

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Only Amber could up with something like that!
 
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