Tradewinds RTO

They had 3 out of 4 and tried to abort past V1 on a wet runway. Luckily, no one got hurt. (Info from guy that taught G/S there)
 
Polar742 said:
They had 3 out of 4 and tried to abort past V1 on a wet runway. Luckily, no one got hurt. (Info from guy that taught G/S there)
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Do you mean three out of four engines running? I thought that whatever problems you encounter with the aircraft after V1 you take into the air with you.
 
The aftermath:
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coa787 said:
Do you mean three out of four engines running? I thought that whatever problems you encounter with the aircraft after V1 you take into the air with you.
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Yes, they only lost 1. You should take it in the air, but they thought they could stop.

Fly safe out there!
 
What will happen to the pilot at the controls?? Loss of aircraft because of aborting takeoff after V1 cannot be a good thing for the guy...
 
Correction; Airliners are graceful and majestic machines in the air, but they make for horrible SUV's.
 
srleslie said:
What will happen to the pilot at the controls?? Loss of aircraft because of aborting takeoff after V1 cannot be a good thing for the guy...
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Well if I was his boss, and this was a Topgun inspired scenario...I would say
"One more stunt like that and I'll have you flying cargo planes out of Hong Kong!"

But that would probably be something this pilot would LIKE to do ::)

Honestly though...Everyone survived. Is that not the most important thing? I bet he lost his job for not taking it into the air, but as an onlooker, I have to wonder if aborting was not the right thing. He ensured the survivial of him and his crew. Taking it into the air would have provided more unknowns and not have made survival as much a certainty I would think. Anyway, I am flying 4 seaters right now, so what do I know:)
 
An abort after V1 could get you and your crew killed. If your aircraft operating procedures dictate that you continue after V1 and you have every reason to believe that the airplane will perform, you need to follow the emergency procedures exactly. If the pilot wasn't following SOP in this accident, the crew was lucky. Taking an airplane into the air after V1 is safer than aborting in the emerg procedures that call for it.
 
falconvalley said:
An abort after V1 could get you and your crew killed. If your aircraft operating procedures dictate that you continue after V1 and you have every reason to believe that the airplane will perform, you need to follow the emergency procedures exactly. If the pilot wasn't following SOP in this accident, the crew was lucky. Taking an airplane into the air after V1 is safer than aborting in the emerg procedures that call for it.
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And it isn't always the AMOUNT of runway thats important. Sure, I could be going V1+50kts and still stop before the end if I had 14,000 ft of runway, but there are other things to consider: brake energy being what comes to my mind first (you wouldn't want a brake fire to ruin your day either)
 
coa787 said:
They had an episode or show on Discovery about that a long time ago; I think it was in 1998 or 1999? I don't know, I was too young to remember the year, but it was a cool episode.
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It actually was a PBS, 5 part series, called 21st Century Jet.
 
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