You'll find, young junior Padawan, that over short time the g-suit straps wear out that they'll no longer hold anything like that.
To Kneeboard again?
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You'll find, young junior Padawan, that over short time the g-suit straps wear out that they'll no longer hold anything like that.
c172captain
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I use one but only to write down start/off/on/in times
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Eh. I use a stol...long-term borrowed FLX maintenance clipboard for the company paperwork. It lives over in the right seat they inexplicably put in the plane. The only thing I strap to my leg is my Ipod...can't have the entertainment sliding around...
///AMG
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To be honest, I have never really used the AGSM, except for maybe a good hard squeeze of the legs and a couple shiesty attempts at the breathing part of it. But then again, maybe if I didn't have the chaps then....
As for kneeboard, I use a 9G+. Works real well for me, and I really don't know many tactical aviators that don't use them. Possibly overkill for civilian straight-and-level type training, but any of you aerobatic pilots would probably enjoy. I used a very basic old school metal clipboard as a civilian pilot, and then quickly threw out the standard issue DoD board once I started mil flying......the one with the built in reading light integrated into the clip.....basically completely useless, and it sits at the bottom of my closet now. I either hold approach plates, use the printoffs on my kneeboard for local approaches, or use the kneestraps for my ejection seat if I have enough time to manipulate that before starting. That said I don't have clunky jepp chart books to contend with, just the govt booklets so that makes instrument stuff easier IMHO
popaviator
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cheap ole clipboard from wal-mart has always worked for me
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
As if UPT students ever actually write anything down during the flight!
I find it hilarious to see students in the advanced phases flying with kneeboards and checklists and IFGs strapped to their knees that they *never* reference. It just hinders cockpit mobility, especially in T-38 advanced formation when studs need to be able to turn around and look behind them while maneuvering.
It is even better in IFF when they have to turn all the way around to fight defensive BFM....and they still won't shed the kneeboard.
Yet, they're still too shy to stow that IFG or kneeboard in the map case.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
I use the same aluminum clipboard I've had forever. I don't velcro it to my leg though. A $0.99 one from walmart would probably do the job just as well. Biggest feature is that it fits in my headset bag.
The most important feature is the 12" piece of string, with a pen permanently affixed to it. No matter how many pens I throw in my bag, they never seem to be there when I need them.
Start/stop tach times, IFR clearances, and whatever else I see fit to write down. It is also a convenient place to clip approach plates and airport diagrams. I'll keep all of them out that I think I might need out, so I don't need to fish around to find another one if my runway changes.
swisspilot
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I use this one http://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/721 LOVE IT!
I use to have the Piccolo but I lost it http://www.design4pilots.com/en/kniebretter.php
I use to have the Piccolo but I lost it http://www.design4pilots.com/en/kniebretter.php
Mike H
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as a student pilot, I used a kneeboard all the time - worked great to hold the checklist. for IFR, I use it to hold approach plates & a notepad to write down clearences. When I started commrcial training, I gradually stopped using it because it tended to get in the way of the control yoke while doing chandelles & lazy 8's, and for CFI training, I don't use it because I have no use for it- somebody else gets to hold the checklist.
I used to write my atis/clearance on my coffee cup which after 15 mins became my dip cup which sometimes was used as a emergency lav cup. When I went and flew cargo jets we had the V-speeds memorized for all the weights. Now that I'm flying people and have stopped chewing we use a Fltplan.com printout and I'm fat enough that my thigh makes a nice suface to write on.
Stuff they stow in the map case, usually gets forgotten there post-flight.
Agree......show me an average UPT stud who does write anything down, lol.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Haven't used one since I was in instrument training. The jet had plenty of space to write stuff without needing one, and now flying single pilot IFR I still don't feel I need one. My weight and balance printout/V-speeds/scratch paper is held on the yoke for easy reference. If I need to write something my hand or leg works fine as a backing (and it's usually just to write down a couple pertinent things like the ATIS code).
Not to mention, around here if you show up with a kneeboard you'd probably get laughed at.
Not to mention, around here if you show up with a kneeboard you'd probably get laughed at.
BravoHotel
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I like my knee board, thankyou very much. It has become my "mini" flight bad, I stuff my light, spare radio, SAC, TAC, checklist, etc in. use the elastic strap for my head set, good to go.
Some operations they're useful and needed, some operations they're not. It all depends, personal preference being a big part.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Not to mention, around here if you show up with a kneeboard you'd probably get laughed at.
You know you could also be laughed at for having printed V-Speeds in a 402.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
You know you could also be laughed at for having printed V-Speeds in a 402.
You'll have to ask my company about that. I don't write 'em out. The computer spits them out on the W&B form.
Anyway, our planes are modified to the point where our V-speeds can vary 10-11 knots depending on weight, so it's significant enough that it's a nice thing to have a printout of the big ones (Vlof, Vy, Vyse, Vref), particularly at higher weights on hot days.
Plus, we fly meat freight. Wreck up a plane for rotating too early, flying the wrong Vyse, etc. and oh my...the lawsuits.
Wow.You'll have to ask my company about that. I don't write 'em out. The computer spits them out on the W&B form.
Must be nice.
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dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
It's all very fancy until you get into the plane.