To all Professional Pilots

If your going to get a degree in something outside of aviation make sure you do it on the side. I know a guy with a Chemistry degree and 20yrs later he knows as much as a high school student. Most employers don't care what you have a degree in as long as you have it. And where do you go to get this college experience. At community college there is no such thing as that.
 
1. Who you know and how well you maintain professional relationships makes all the difference in the world.

2. Debt sucks, especially when pay is low.

3. Flying is flying, advertising is advertising, and a great education can be found in places other than full-page, glossy magazine ads. (Directly related to number 2)

4. Stalling at the top of a hammerhead can lead to fun and unexpected things.

5. There is life outside of the airlines.
 
Mr_Creepy said:
That's not bad Tony, but a corporate jet starts past that decimal point :D

So?

How many so called "entrepreneurs" have that kind of income?

And I ain't even started with the very highly compensated employees yet. Go to Wall Street and check out what some of those employees make. They can afford a corporate jet. Not a $30 million brand spanking new one, but certainly a used one. Or a new Eclipse when it comes out.
 
FlyChicaga said:
I would have studied harder. Read more books, gotten my nose in the AIM more, and paid more attention in some classes. I feel pretty knowledgable, but when I look at the AIM and what not I sometimes feel like there is so much to know in the depths of it that could help someday. Besides that, I would have enjoyed the journey to where I am now more, and tried to make and keep more friends along the way. Sometimes I think I worked so hard to achieve my goal that I neglected to have as much fun as I could have while working to get here! I feel that way also about moving from the regionals to the majors... this place is fun. Yeah, the pay is crap. But this is a good time, and I don't want it to end too soon.

I'll second that.

I would have also been more adventrous or curious while I was doing the training. Instead of the mundane stalls/slow flight, touch and go's act, I would've liked to have seen more freedom in the flying we did. I know that mundane stuff is very important, and can also be fun, but at times I think a little veering from the curriculum helps make the whole experience more memorable.

I have started to do this with my students. For example, after a few flights of sharpening the touch and go skills, I would go to an airport perhaps on the San Juan Islands in WA (1/2 hour flight compared to a six hour trip with a ferry). Maybe grab some pie at Jefferson County airport in Port Townsend. Or an area perhaps the student would never have gone without that airport being there. Might be a little longer flight, but they seem to enjoy it. I think it produces a sense of satisfaction when they look at the plane on the ramp knowing that was their mode of transportation to be where they are at that moment.


I dig it too I suppose! :)

-ColM
 
Doug Taylor said:
"An employee that owns his own jet?"
While I realize you all think I'm senile - you don't have to repeat things to me!

While I realize you all think I'm senile - you don't have to repeat things to me!

...
 
tonyw said:
So?

How many so called "entrepreneurs" have that kind of income?

And I ain't even started with the very highly compensated employees yet. Go to Wall Street and check out what some of those employees make. They can afford a corporate jet. Not a $30 million brand spanking new one, but certainly a used one. Or a new Eclipse when it comes out.
I would say the percentage of people who have that income who are "entrepeneurs" is significantly higher than those who are employees.

But I'm stupid so what do I know. Senile too.
 
Mr_Creepy said:
Ok granted - I did not specify corporate jet.

You got me :D

OK, here's one. The airline that Doug is most familiar with had a vietnam era pilot that had his own Citation. His family owned several radio stations and newspapers. A media conglomerate that you have probably heard of. This guy had responsibilities to oversee radio stations in the midwest, so he bought a single pilot Citation to do it.

Super nice guy. No ego. In fact you had to learn about his airplane from other people. He served in Vietnam, and pursued his love of flying, and ran radio stations on the side.

Other pilots I've known have owned their own corporate jets. Usually dealing them for profit.
 
tonyw said:
So?

How many so called "entrepreneurs" have that kind of income?

And I ain't even started with the very highly compensated employees yet. Go to Wall Street and check out what some of those employees make. They can afford a corporate jet. Not a $30 million brand spanking new one, but certainly a used one. Or a new Eclipse when it comes out.

What are so called "entrepreneurs"? Are they anything like entrepreneurs?
 
flyover said:
OK, here's one. The airline that Doug is most familiar with had a vietnam era pilot that had his own Citation. His family owned several radio stations and newspapers. A media conglomerate that you have probably heard of. This guy had responsibilities to oversee radio stations in the midwest, so he bought a single pilot Citation to do it.

Super nice guy. No ego. In fact you had to learn about his airplane from other people. He served in Vietnam, and pursued his love of flying, and ran radio stations on the side.

Other pilots I've known have owned their own corporate jets. Usually dealing them for profit.
I would put this guy in the "employee of convenience" class - he doesn't need the job most likely.

Sounds like the other assets had a great deal to do with why he has a plane.
 
Mr_Creepy said:
I would put this guy in the "employee of convenience" class - he doesn't need the job most likely.

Sounds like the other assets had a great deal to do with why he has a plane.

No big deal. Thought there was some interest in working pilots that owned jets. Also knew a working pilot that built a business up from scratch, kind of a so called "entrepreneur", and he bought a DC-3 to play around with. Just a factoid.
 
B767 said:
Do you know where these Mig-15s are located? A while back I was driving up to Denver for a hockey tournament and was around BJC and there was a Mig-15 flying around up there.

The red Mig? If so, that guy is dangerous. Almost mid-aired with us one day when we were departing the pattern (as quickly as we could). He had taken off after us and damn near went up our tail. Could have been on purpose, but I didn't like it. Dangerous nonetheless. He often yells at tower about "all these Cessnas in my way" Too bad he can't think ahead of his speed and plan better. Or be nice :)
 
I am actively pursuing this...

1) Find a trust fund baby

2) Fall in love with her

3) Marry her

Any questions?
 
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