To all Professional Pilots

Actually I do know a guy that's an employee with his own jet.

I see what you're trying to say, but it's an overly broad statement.
 
bwade210 said to me:

"My question to you is do you think you are better than everyone at schools like GIA, or have you simply not reached the point in your life where "having fun with people" (i.e. making fun) is getting old? The time has come for you to graduate high school and mature!And also.......you really should have resisted this urge because right now you look like a complete ass"

Then bwade210 asked:

In a sentence or two, what is one thing you wish you knew back (during your training) then, that you know now?

DE727UPS answers:

Back during my training days, I was too busy to respond to the idiots. I didn't have the time. Now, I never forget who they are or what they said....
 
Kingairer said:
Yeah, thats not a real big advantage. You can be a young 20's capt/fo with a college degree.

IF i had it to do again I think i would have studied LESS and drank MORE.

lol.
 
Timbuff10 said:
I agree with wheelsup for the most part... It seems to me that any dumbass can get into a plane and fly it these days.

Please don't downplay our profession just because you have the training to feel comfortable in the cockpit now.... all that the media needs to hear is arrogance like that. "Any monkey can fly an airplane".... and you wonder why pay is so low.
 
Additionally, this message is for all the newcomers out there who are working on their private, who aspire to fly professionally, and who still get excited when they see the big tails at the airport:

NEVER, EVER let any pessimists here on the message boards dampen your hopes. A lot of whiners hang out on these forums.... and these whiners are the 10% who do 100% of the whining. I don't mean to offend anyone here, but I get sick of people trying to step on other's dreams.

For the most part, all of the professional pilots out there who enjoy their careers don't spend their time on these forums being pessimistic. They don't let an industry downturn bring them down. They are taking heavies across the Atlantic and Pacific, flying into Milwaukee in snowstorms and loving it, and happily bringing wide-eyed children into the cockpit to check out the 'switches and dials'.

...maybe this will be a wake up call for the whiners. I certainly wouldn't have appreciated negative bashing back in high school when I was flying Cessnas and just getting started.
 
"all that the media needs to hear is arrogance like that. "Any monkey can fly an airplane"

I hope the media doesn't discover Capt Caneman.
 
"For the most part, all of the professional pilots out there who enjoy their careers don't spend their time on these forums being pessimistic. They don't let an industry downturn bring them down. They are taking heavies across the Atlantic and Pacific, flying into Milwaukee in snowstorms and loving it, and happily bringing wide-eyed children into the cockpit to check out the 'switches and dials'....maybe this will be a wake up call for the whiners. I certainly wouldn't have appreciated negative bashing back in high school when I was flying Cessnas and just getting started."

Not sure where you're going with this. We tell it like it is here. "Like it is" means different things to different people. For anyone to be positive, so as to not risk being negative, wouldn't be honest, now, would it. Is that what a newbie wants to hear? You want to hear that, you can find it at the news links at several of the big academy websites.

Personally, I'm sorry if I come across as negative. There are certain things about entering this career that just drive me crazy. Things that are accepted today as commonplace just weren't heard of back in the day. Should I just shut up about that at the risk of being negative?

I'm at this site because I care about what's going on, even though a lot of it will never effect me personally.
 
Im in high school (almost done..yes!) and still get "excited when see the big tails at the airport." I have had my sights set on ERAU for a long time and I'll admit then when I first saw these boards and read the post I became a little tentative and kind of despised what was being said (especially all the negativity towards ERAU and such). Then I aged and matured a little and realized that this IS the way it is. I used to live in a world where you could be a 747 captain making 300k a year only flying once a month and all the good things like that. Kind of the dream world a pilot lives in (like Leonardo DiCaprio plays it out in Catch Me If You Can). These people have not dampened my hopes but rather taught me that it's a different world out there and it's a lot harder then expected.
 
DE727UPS said:
Not sure where you're going with this. We tell it like it is here. "Like it is" means different things to different people. For anyone to be positive, so as to not risk being negative, wouldn't be honest, now, would it. Is that what a newbie wants to hear? You want to hear that, you can find it at the news links at several of the big academy websites.

I don't know how to say it, but if it sounds pessimistic on jetcareers, chances are it's a lot worse than it seems.

I try to keep a positive outlook on stuff mixed in with a good dose of reality and if it's too "pessimistic" here, things are far worse than they seem to you.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Actually I do know a guy that's an employee with his own jet.

I see what you're trying to say, but it's an overly broad statement.
I must have missed this. An employee that owns his own jet? At what level? This guy works for someone else and he owns what, a Citation I or something?

Tell me more!
 
Mr_Creepy said:
I must have missed this. An employee that owns his own jet? At what level? This guy works for someone else and he owns what, a Citation I or something?

Do you know how much a sales rep working for SAP or Oracle or some other huge enterprise software company can make?

Sometimes, their pay has seven figures in it before the decimal point.
 
Mr_Creepy said:
I must have missed this. An employee that owns his own jet? At what level? This guy works for someone else and he owns what, a Citation I or something?

Tell me more!

Well, one FO (a friend of mine) owns a former Canadian Air Force T-33 based of Waukesha. Paul's T-33

Another couple of FO's (one was my classmate and the other was a fellow ERAU alum) own a (wait, gotta google it because I forgot the type...) L-39 Albatross in Rockford. Jeff and Nancy's L-39

My neighbor (and fellow pilot) is restoring an A-4, but currently flies a Yak and a Pitts in international aerobatic competititon. It's pronounced Bourbon!

And the other FO that I went thru recurrent with last year, with his father (a 74 captain) have two MiG-15's and a couple P-51's and do the air show circuit. I couldn't find any online information about the MiG-15, but it's the bright red one that does the airshows.
 
Do you know where these Mig-15s are located? A while back I was driving up to Denver for a hockey tournament and was around BJC and there was a Mig-15 flying around up there.
 
I know he lives in the NW but one of the Mustangs is based at Hollister. I have no idea.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Well, one FO (a friend of mine) owns a former Canadian Air Force T-33 based of Waukesha. Paul's T-33

Another couple of FO's (one was my classmate and the other was a fellow ERAU alum) own a (wait, gotta google it because I forgot the type...) L-39 Albatross in Rockford. Jeff and Nancy's L-39

My neighbor (and fellow pilot) is restoring an A-4, but currently flies a Yak and a Pitts in international aerobatic competititon. It's pronounced Bourbon!

And the other FO that I went thru recurrent with last year, with his father (a 74 captain) have two MiG-15's and a couple P-51's and do the air show circuit. I couldn't find any online information about the MiG-15, but it's the bright red one that does the airshows.
Ok granted - I did not specify corporate jet.

You got me :D
 
Doug Taylor said:
Another couple of FO's (one was my classmate and the other was a fellow ERAU alum) own a (wait, gotta google it because I forgot the type...) L-39 Albatross in Rockford. Jeff and Nancy's L-39
.

You know Nancy and Jeff? Bill flew with Nancy at Scenic, they're great folks!
 
Yup! Nancy trained Jeff at TWA, Jeff gets hired at "D", Nancy is in class two weeks after him and they tie the knot!

Same high energy couple!

Whenever I see Nance, it's "WHENAREYOUCOMINGTOROCKFORDTOCOMEWATERSKI?"
 
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