Throw us your roundtable ideas...

ComplexHiAv8r said:
Kristie, do you have a list going? If so how about an update on subjects.

How about:

CFI as a career? It takes a special person to do this. Is Van coming to NJC???

Flying and the family? How to support/handle having the family and flying for a career.

Career Changers: I think we are seeing more of this, might be nice to have a seperate discussion with people changing careers to flying.

Finance 101: How to prepare and survive those first couple years on low pay.

Would it be beneficial to have someone from AOPA attend and discuss the benefits of joining their organization?
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yes, we do have a list going (this thread is it).... i have no idea if Van is coming (he's not registered)... talk to him if you want him to be the head of that particular roundtable and then get in communicado with me so we can work out the details.

Finance 101... i'm not sure how we'd pull off a roundtable session on that... anyone have a financial planner or consultant they could bring in (i doubt we could get suze orman, altho i'm gonna check anyways, you just never know :)) to give tips on financial success? we could bring in someone who can talk retirement as well if that was of any interest.
 
TheShortOne said:
the hole is getting stuck at a regional as a captain because you don't have the financial ability to take the paycut to move up to a mainline (kids, house, whatever)
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Yes Kristie, this is what I meant. Sorry for the lack of original elaboration. :( Folks who upgrade to making $61K+ a year at the regional level, live to their financial limit, and then can never move up to Delta, Northwest, Southwest, etc. because they can't afford to make <$40K for a year. Some advice on what to do financially as a regional captain from the legacy and major pilots would be great. :)
 
PCL_128 said:
Kristie, I emailed one of my friends in the Comm Dept, so hopefully I'll hear back from him sometime tomorrow. As soon as I hear something, I'll let you know.
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FYI the Comm department just went through a bit of turn over. I had a problem with our monthly newsletter because both the people we worked with quit and didn't push out project to anybody else. I'm hoping you're contacts are still there.
 
The guy I usually call about these things has been with ALPA for over 25 years, so I don't think he's gone anywhere. :) He's been spending a lot of time up in Canada for the past few months on a few organizing initiatives up there, so it's been taking him a while to respond to emails. I know the Director of Comm and the Manager of Comm pretty well, so I'll call them if my buddy doesn't get back to me next week. I just try not to call them unless its something urgent since they're usually extremely busy.
 
mpenguin1 said:
Have some of the experienced pilots talk about CRM, flying in a
2 person flightdeck, treating the Flight Attendants as part of the crew (they are an extra set of eyes.)

Good review session for some of the senior pilots & a reminder that CRM does not mean Captain Remains Master:laff:
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Actually, the "experts" are realizing that they went too far the other way in the beginning of CRM. It used to be that CRM was "touchy-feely", don't do anything to "offend" the F/O and they found that the original version of CRM did not have a clearly defined chain of command ( F/O- I don't feel comfortable ). They are now teaching that the Captain is ALWAYS in COMMAND, and to COMMAND the aircraft WHILE taking into consideration ALL available information from ALL available resources.
 
UPSpilot said:
Actually, the "experts" are realizing that they went too far the other way in the beginning of CRM. It used to be that CRM was "touchy-feely", don't do anything to "offend" the F/O and they found that the original version of CRM did not have a clearly defined chain of command ( F/O- I don't feel comfortable ). They are now teaching that the Captain is ALWAYS in COMMAND, and to COMMAND the aircraft WHILE taking into consideration ALL available information from ALL available resources.
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Maybe in the military or UPS land!;)
 
Since it appears that we have the time and the space, is there going to be seperate (and more defined) roundtables?

Upgrade to CA
CFI as a career
Preparing for the ATP (non-121 environment)
Finance 101
Good, Bad, and the Ugly to Unions
 
This would be helpful:

Aero_Engineer said:
How to excell an airline interview would be a great topic since a lot of us will be in that position in the next couple of years.
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So would this:

jtrain609 said:
-How to get through training from the training departments perspective. We've got a handful of former training captains hanging out around here who could provide some good feedback to people on how training departments look at trainee's and what you can do to get yourself through training. I can think of three freight training captains and one part 121 sim instructor that are active on the forums off the top of my head. A subset of that discussion could be a little bit on quality vs. quantity of flight time and how it can and will affect you in the training environment.
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And to expand on that, how to get through training from the Pilot's perspective. What do you do to make sure you don't get burned out? Something like that.

Also, the ALPA discussion could be very helpful as well.
 
I would like to talk about how to pass an oral (mindset, preparation, delivery). Do we have any folks on here who have administered an oral? Any folks on hiring commitees or check airmen? I would like to have some new hires, and recent upgrades have input into the discussion as well.

ready for the gutter humor (do not disappoint me):D
 
i just can't....i just can't GO THERE....someone else is gonna have to do it for me (but keep it pg13ish for me plz) ;)


As it is, maybe Matt (Flychicaga) would know someone since he was in the training camp at one point? I can see if Doug can't get the Delta hiring guy or our buddy who hires the folks at United out for a roundtable (he already said he'd be coming out to represent United).... I'll ask him when he gets home on friday.
 
bumblebee said:
I would like to talk about how to pass an oral (mindset, preparation, delivery). Do we have any folks on here who have administered an oral? Any folks on hiring commitees or check airmen? I would like to have some new hires, and recent upgrades have input into the discussion as well.

ready for the gutter humor (do not disappoint me):D
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If nobody else has any ideas, I can always ask the Allegiant Check Airmen to help out......
 
bumblebee said:
I would like to talk about how to pass an oral (mindset, preparation, delivery). Do we have any folks on here who have administered an oral? Any folks on hiring commitees or check airmen? I would like to have some new hires, and recent upgrades have input into the discussion as well.

ready for the gutter humor (do not disappoint me):D
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I'd be down for helping on this one. My sim partner and I gave each other "mock orals" based on what we knew the APDs did and how they did it. My sim partner said I was a LOT tougher on him than the actual APD, so my plan worked. :) Train hard, test easier.

I know we've got at least one check airman (or soon to be) on here that's going. I'm planning on tossing my name in that hat here at Pinnacle once I meet the requirements.

I'm also starting work on the Pilot-to-Pilot committee here, and we work with the MEC and communications guys to get word out to pilots. I'd be down with helping out on the union roundtable stuff, too.
 
Well since I might be at NJC 08 (depends on how my Summer plans work out), how there might be a freind of mine (lurker), and another younger JCer abroad might attend, I figured maybe something for the younger people in aviation. Things such as:

-How you got to where you are now, what did you do? why did you do it?
-A general overview of what to do and what not to do while pursuing an aviation career
-Financing flight training and managing a budget for flight training.
-Study habbits to always have through out our aviation careers that are effective
-Tips on staying in the game and not "washing out" of training

...Thats a few off the top of my head.

Personally, I would be intrested in corporate pilot perspective aswell. Any corporate pilots going to be there this year?
 
First thing is first, we need to have one session this year. Last year we really didn't have an option, but I think it is imperative we only have one session this year.

Secondly, we have no more than five or six presenters that speak on a particular topic. They speak for twenty minutes, tops, then open it up for questions/answers and someone can add what they want for twenty or so minutes. Bring props, slides, give outs, etc...We really won't need to cover CRM, Al Haynes is CRM. The presenters should be 'experienced' in what they are talking about and will run their twenty to forty minutes.

These presenters will need to keep have their presentations conform to those with zero time to 10,000 hours.



These topics in my mind should be...



Applying for jobs, preparing for interviews from Regionals to Legacies (I can do this one)

Getting through training (Cooperate/Graduate)

Unions and Aviation

Supplemental 121 operations and the doors it opens (Polar this one is yours!)

Corporate/Fractional/91 Ownership Aviation (Please come out to Vegas SteveC!)



Also what day is the round tables and where is it going to be?
 
n57flyguy said:
-How you got to where you are now, what did you do? why did you do it?
-A general overview of what to do and what not to do while pursuing an aviation career
-Financing flight training and managing a budget for flight training.
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Hope you can make it!

I think that with these topics you can get that out of the people on here when talking to them one on one during the particular events.
 
ladies only round table "effective communication with your SO gone all the time" I vote we have it at margaritaville again at the same time as the other round tables...my eyes glazed over last year
 
Segs, i'm not sure i agree with the one session...that would be soooooo long (like ALL day) that you'd have people falling asleep or getting lazy or zoning out. people flittering in/out of the room for bathroom breaks or people leaving cuz they don't need/want to hear certain topics.....I'd rather have split sessions about 45 mins to 1.5 hrs tops (20-25 in a room set up as a hollow square (ie: roundtable type)) and keep the topics separate so those who need/want to be there can be...those who don't or aren't interested don't need to be.

Roundtables are set for Mon & Tues in the Phoenix room meeting area. We could use the golden room (which seats more people) for some of the topics that would incur a larger group.

but i thought keeping them separate last year really helped with keeping it interactive, personalized etc??



I'd like to see a medical roundtable and a lifestyle roundtable...but not at Margaritaville. it's too hard to talk to everyone there...i'd much rather keep it as a roundtable session and have at least one or two sets of pilot/wife to answer questions
 
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