This Looks Grim

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killbilly said:
Was that a fatal? The flightaware page says it landed. Replay has the speed fixed all the way but other than that, there's nothing I can see there that looks....grim. What am I missing?
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I saw the same last night. Looks like it landed.
 
Flight Aware & radar are two different things altogether. The FA altitude profile appears to indicate a steady descent as if VNAV was engaged and APCH selected, flying the aircraft to OM or DH. But that’s a lot of assumptions based solely on one FA metric.
 
tomokc said:
Flight Aware & radar are two different things altogether. The FA altitude profile appears to indicate a steady descent as if VNAV was engaged and APCH selected, flying the aircraft to OM or DH. But that’s a lot of assumptions based solely on one FA metric.
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No, what you're seeing as a constant rate decent is simply Flight Aware connecting the last data point it received with the ground (it mistakenly thinking it landed at its destination.) If you look at the FA map, you see a green ground track (which is data FA received) followed by a white line simply connecting it to the destination, they didn't have data so they connected it. Same with the vertical profile.
 
Baronman said:
No, what you're seeing as a constant rate decent is simply Flight Aware connecting the last data point it received with the ground (it mistakenly thinking it landed at its destination.) If you look at the FA map, you see a green ground track (which is data FA received) followed by a white line simply connecting it to the destination, they didn't have data so they connected it. Same with the vertical profile.
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That helps - thanks. Straight lines don’t exist in nature, so these straight lines had me wondering.
 
tomokc said:
Flight Aware & radar are two different things altogether. The FA altitude profile appears to indicate a steady descent as if VNAV was engaged and APCH selected, flying the aircraft to OM or DH. But that’s a lot of assumptions based solely on one FA metric.
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Vnav on a 441. Lol
 
tomokc said:
That helps - thanks. Straight lines don’t exist in nature, so these straight lines had me wondering.
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100% Natural. :p

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What do you guys think about supposed "experts" coming on the news to tell people what the cause of a crash was?
Seems to me, guys like that just want attention (whether they are correct or not).

I think its dangerous to let anyone other than the NTSB comment on it so early especially since lots of people take whatever is said on the news as gospel.
 
DogwoodLynx said:
What do you guys think about supposed "experts" coming on the news to tell people what the cause of a crash was?
Seems to me, guys like that just want attention (whether they are correct or not).

I think its dangerous to let anyone other than the NTSB comment on it so early especially since lots of people take whatever is said on the news as gospel.
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I had this thought as well when I read that someone proactively called in to discuss.
 
NovemberEcho said:
Why would you not declare and land after the first time you lost control?
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My thoughts exactly. Even if I thought the trim problem was resolved, I’d be landing ASAP. And probably trying to minimize configuration changes. Probably zero flap landing at IND on the longest runway.
 
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