Thinking of becoming a pilot?
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TheShortOne
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john has yet to beat me at air hockey...
kristie i'll take you on in vegas
kristie i'll take you on in vegas
TheShortOne
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*stupid in stereo*
i was totally first!
guess who's the competitive one...
i was totally first!
guess who's the competitive one...
Thinking about saving this post in my favorites, then linking to it every time someone asks about taking out loans for flight training. Wadda ya think?
(talking about ESF's original post, not the air hockey/pool part
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Nah. Nobody would listen to me and I'd just tick 'em off.
Been there done did dat.
(talking about ESF's original post, not the air hockey/pool part
Nah. Nobody would listen to me and I'd just tick 'em off.
Been there done did dat.
EatSleepFly
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Hey everyone. I really appreciate all your comments and kind words. JohnH, you flatter me, lol.
I won't quit flying. I'm too stubborn. I threaten to when I get disenchanted with things, but I won't. There are days when I wish I would, but that day won't come because of my chioce.
Anyways, just wanted to give some perspective into the reality for anyone who may be sporting the rose-colored Ray Bans. I wouldn't say that I highly recommend this career or anything, but I will say this- when its good its great.
Thanks again!
I won't quit flying. I'm too stubborn. I threaten to when I get disenchanted with things, but I won't. There are days when I wish I would, but that day won't come because of my chioce.
Anyways, just wanted to give some perspective into the reality for anyone who may be sporting the rose-colored Ray Bans. I wouldn't say that I highly recommend this career or anything, but I will say this- when its good its great.
Thanks again!
pilot602
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Oh, and P.S.- I'd just like to thank all you a$$holes who paid for jobs like mine for ruining it for the rest of us who prefer to get jobs the right way.
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Yikes, hopefully it's a bad day or just being hungry talking. You chose the job the career etc. Sounds like you need to take stock and decide if you want to go another way.
I can't get over the last comment though. "The right way".
Market forces are always "right" in that things will always end up where the market takes them. If there are enough guys willing to pay for time, then so be it. If the market is too saturated then pay and everything else will be against pilots. Most professions require paying for the chance to be there. Some take out huge loans to be lawyers or doctors. Others get it paid for by the folks. It's not fair.
So there it is. As more people decide that it just isn't worth it, as you seem to be saying, then it will move the other way.
But it is a voluntary endeavor.
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Spoken like someone who eats everyday and gets a nice/steady paycheck.
Would you walk into Wal mart and pay them to work there? No? Then why should people do it to fly?
If you argue "market forces" then it's simply an excercies in self deprication because as more and more people "pay" to fly the lower the overall pay wage becomes. So, what ends up happening is that guy who has paid to fly finally gets to a paid position his wages are crap and he starts complaining or quits (because its a "voluntary endeavor") but in either case the damage is done. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
PFT might be great for management (and that could be argued) but who cares ... this isn't a Web site for management, now is it?
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Oh, and P.S.- I'd just like to thank all you a$$holes who paid for jobs like mine for ruining it for the rest of us who prefer to get jobs the right way.
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Yikes, hopefully it's a bad day or just being hungry talking. You chose the job the career etc. Sounds like you need to take stock and decide if you want to go another way.
I can't get over the last comment though. "The right way".
Market forces are always "right" in that things will always end up where the market takes them. If there are enough guys willing to pay for time, then so be it. If the market is too saturated then pay and everything else will be against pilots. Most professions require paying for the chance to be there. Some take out huge loans to be lawyers or doctors. Others get it paid for by the folks. It's not fair.
So there it is. As more people decide that it just isn't worth it, as you seem to be saying, then it will move the other way.
But it is a voluntary endeavor.
Dave
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Spoken like someone who eats everyday and gets a nice/steady paycheck.
Would you walk into Wal mart and pay them to work there? No? Then why should people do it to fly?
If you argue "market forces" then it's simply an excercies in self deprication because as more and more people "pay" to fly the lower the overall pay wage becomes. So, what ends up happening is that guy who has paid to fly finally gets to a paid position his wages are crap and he starts complaining or quits (because its a "voluntary endeavor") but in either case the damage is done. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
PFT might be great for management (and that could be argued) but who cares ... this isn't a Web site for management, now is it?
bullmastiff
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Quite ballsy for a 140 pounder................ But hey, everybody is a bad A$$ sitting back behind their computer screen
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Yes I am still thinking of becoming a pilot. Every industry and career field has its ups and downs and its hard times. It is a dream I am willing to follow. If I can't get to an airline position then I can work as another pilot job until I can get that airline position. I've seen people give up too easily on their dreams. Then when the industry picks up again the drop everything to start training to get qualified. The best way to do it is to work on your ratings and get hours while you do something else you like. That way you won't be unemplyed as quickly.
bullmastiff
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Guess what? There are way underpaid(1300 per month or less ) soldiers sitting in Iraq right now.. They probably bitch less then you, to be honest. Go find one when they get back, and bitch to him, watch him knock your head off that frail little body of yours
aviategw
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Well,
First off, keep your chin up. What goes around does come around, your time is coming. Someday, man, some day.
Second, I appreciate the perspective. I've worked and skimped and gotten to the point where I have my CFI and Multi Commercial without any debt. I'm about to lose the desk job that has gotten me this far, and I have to make a decision. Law School, or Flight School to finish up my CFII and MEI and start teaching are my options. Either way, I figure it to be about three to four years or so before I am employable.
Posts like yours are the perspective I need.
First off, keep your chin up. What goes around does come around, your time is coming. Someday, man, some day.
Second, I appreciate the perspective. I've worked and skimped and gotten to the point where I have my CFI and Multi Commercial without any debt. I'm about to lose the desk job that has gotten me this far, and I have to make a decision. Law School, or Flight School to finish up my CFII and MEI and start teaching are my options. Either way, I figure it to be about three to four years or so before I am employable.
Posts like yours are the perspective I need.
EatSleepFly
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Quite ballsy for a 140 pounder................ But hey, everybody is a bad A$$ sitting back behind their computer screen
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I don't know what your deal is, or why you are attacking me, but back off. I wasn't trying to be any kind of "bad ass".
I have no doubt that soldiers are underpaid. I thank you, and every one of them for your and their service and sacrafice.
Sorry that you misinterpreted the intent of my post.
Quite ballsy for a 140 pounder................ But hey, everybody is a bad A$$ sitting back behind their computer screen
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I don't know what your deal is, or why you are attacking me, but back off. I wasn't trying to be any kind of "bad ass".
I have no doubt that soldiers are underpaid. I thank you, and every one of them for your and their service and sacrafice.
Sorry that you misinterpreted the intent of my post.
bullmastiff
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Quite ballsy for a 140 pounder................ But hey, everybody is a bad A$$ sitting back behind their computer screen
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I don't know what your deal is, or why you are attacking me, but back off. I wasn't trying to be any kind of "bad ass".
I have no doubt that soldiers are underpaid. I thank you, and every one of them for your and their service and sacrafice.
Sorry if you misinterpreted the intent of my post.
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I didnt like your tone towards wannabees/hopefuls. Sounded as if you were putting them down. If not, then I take it back, otherwise it stands
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Quite ballsy for a 140 pounder................ But hey, everybody is a bad A$$ sitting back behind their computer screen
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I don't know what your deal is, or why you are attacking me, but back off. I wasn't trying to be any kind of "bad ass".
I have no doubt that soldiers are underpaid. I thank you, and every one of them for your and their service and sacrafice.
Sorry if you misinterpreted the intent of my post.
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I didnt like your tone towards wannabees/hopefuls. Sounded as if you were putting them down. If not, then I take it back, otherwise it stands
EatSleepFly
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Sounded as if you were putting them down.
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Not at all. We all were at one point. What am I supposed to call someone who wants or hopes to be a pilot?
Heck, I still consider myself a wannabe. I wannabe flying a Falcon or Gulfstream for $100k a year.
I was referring to those folks who want to become pilots, but who refuse to hear about anything negative.
Sounded as if you were putting them down.
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Not at all. We all were at one point. What am I supposed to call someone who wants or hopes to be a pilot?
Heck, I still consider myself a wannabe. I wannabe flying a Falcon or Gulfstream for $100k a year.
I was referring to those folks who want to become pilots, but who refuse to hear about anything negative.
GaTechKid
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Alright, now flame away. I can't wait for all of you wannabes, and hopefuls to tell me how full of •! I am and how you'd kill to be in my shoes.
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Seems to me he was pre-empting any personal attacks about his situation and not putting wannabes in their "place."
But looks like he got one anyway...
Alright, now flame away. I can't wait for all of you wannabes, and hopefuls to tell me how full of •! I am and how you'd kill to be in my shoes.
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Seems to me he was pre-empting any personal attacks about his situation and not putting wannabes in their "place."
But looks like he got one anyway...