Thinking about changing my double major

ZUKO

ZUKO

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I was going to double major in Commercial Aviation and Finance. But seeing all the course requirements and accounting classes I will have to go through I sort of feel it may spread me out too thin or take too long.

I am considering doubling in Commercial Aviation and Air Traffic Control. It seems like it would be a cool job and good way to still be in the industry if I medically couldnt become a commercial airline pilot or if it doesn't work out. Also the ATC courses should make me a better pilot.

Could I stiill complete this is four years?

Opinions?

Anyways guys, if you see a mazda6 driving slow over the ice dont tail gate it. He still has a spare tire on it because the airport bump ruined his other tire and its unfixable. My small spare tire will auto skid on any ice. I got out of 102 the other day and all the snow had stuck to the ground. Anyways to make a long story short I almost got into a head on accident on university. :mad:
 
Haha, my friends and I were just talking about your car today and how funny it would be to slash someones spare tire. :D err yeah, j/k :)

I'm not sure if that is the best thing to do. I'm pretty sure with ATC you have to be called up within a certain amount of time after graduation. Beyond that time you're SOL basically. So if you're thinking that would be a good backup if say you lose your medical around age 40, it wouldn't be. The FAA would not hire you that late in the game. Now if you want a little assurance for the first 5 years of your flying career, then that would work, otherwise no. I'm 90% sure on this. As a backup for later down the road, ATC just doesn't work.

Now if you want to be a controller and instruct or fly freight on the side or something, that is perfectly feasable then.
 
I could be wrong on this, but I've heard that air traffic controllers have to pass a medical similar to a second class medical periodically. Is this true? If it is, ATC may not be the safest route if shooting for a backup plan from flying.
 
UAL747400 said:
I'm pretty sure with ATC you have to be called up within a certain amount of time after graduation. Beyond that time you're SOL basically.
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After successful completion of the AT-CTI course work, with a recommendation from the school to the FAA, your name will sit on the list at FAA in OKC for two years. If, approaching the two years after recommendation, you have not been called, you can ask for an extension for another two years. This cycle can continue up to your 31st birthday.
 
You only have one shot too, If you don't take the job offer, then you are booted out of the system FOOORRRREEEEEVVVVVEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
 
why double major when you can just major in Aviation Management? you take take all the aviation classes still as well as earn a real degree and not a ######## commercial aviation degree.


thats what i did
 
brschmid said:
why double major when you can just major in Aviation Management? you take take all the aviation classes still as well as earn a real degree and not a ######## commercial aviation degree.


thats what i did
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That's what I'm doing...can't wait to graduate in May! :D
 
UAL747400 said:
Lucky bastard. I just now switched back to aviation management. I'm double majoring, so lucky me, I get to be here until fall of 08 possibly spring of 09.
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Yeah I'm determining if I should stay for CFI course, or get my certificates back at home and have my dad as my instructor...which would save me thousands of bucks.
 
JaceTheAce said:
Yeah I'm determining if I should stay for CFI course, or get my certificates back at home and have my dad as my instructor...which would save me thousands of bucks.
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the ground school didn't help me at all with learning to be a CFI
 
brschmid said:
the ground school didn't help me at all with learning to be a CFI
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That's what I'm wondering. Is the CFI ground course very beneficial at all? or will I benefit more by learning how to instruct from a much more experienced CFI like my dad?
 
JaceTheAce said:
That's what I'm wondering. Is the CFI ground course very beneficial at all? or will I benefit more by learning how to instruct from a much more experienced CFI like my dad?
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I'm possibly thinking about doing the same thing...to get some new experience and save some money. Is there any chance at all that I could get hired at UND if I did CFI someplace else, or is that totally out of the question?
 
as a UND alumni you are allowed to apply as much as you want.

personally myself, i applied once, failed their impossible written test and said i don't want to work there anymore. i am now working at Flight support. sure i am not as busy but it is a much better experience outside of the 'UND bubble'
 
airplanerik said:
Even if you don't do CFI here?
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I thought I've heard of a couple of CFI's at UND who did their training somewhere else.

I want to do it for the experience in learning how to teach someone to fly in a busier environment (Class B). This way I can be more well-rounded in my flying experience when applying for a CFI job... whether it be a CFI job in the DC region or some tiny town in Kansas.
 
Nobody can teach you to be a CFI, it comes with experience. You won't believe how much you will learn during your first 200 hours of Dual Given. It doesn't matter where you get your CFI, about 95% will be ground school, reviewing basic aeronautical knowledge and teaching you how to do lesson plans and endorsements. There is very little flying involved. It's just to get you used to flying and teaching from the right seat. I had about 40 hrs. of ground and maybe 5 hours of flight before I took my initial CFI (which was my MEI).

Will UND hire you if you didn't do 414 at UND?

Maybe. Depends on the need for instructors. Of course they prefer to hire people that have done CFI at UND. Personally, I think they should hire a few from the "outside" (which they do on occassion). I know ERAU hires a lot of Non-Riddle grads.
 
UND_Flyer said:
Nobody can teach you to be a CFI, it comes with experience. You won't believe how much you will learn during your first 200 hours of Dual Given. It doesn't matter where you get your CFI, about 95% will be ground school, reviewing basic aeronautical knowledge and teaching you how to do lesson plans and endorsements. There is very little flying involved. It's just to get you used to flying and teaching from the right seat. I had about 40 hrs. of ground and maybe 5 hours of flight before I took my initial CFI (which was my MEI).

Will UND hire you if you didn't do 414 at UND?

Maybe. Depends on the need for instructors. Of course they prefer to hire people that have done CFI at UND. Personally, I think they should hire a few from the "outside" (which they do on occassion). I know ERAU hires a lot of Non-Riddle grads.
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that would be wise idea to stop the "inbreeding"
 
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