Things CFIs are Sick of saying, doing, or hearing

Pointing out a mistake to them and they say "I know...." and nothing is done to correct it.

For example, just the other day on downwind in the traffic pattern. (student is 150 feet low and descending)

Me: watch your alti...
Student (hastily)...I KNOW I KNOW

As the plane continues to descend and build airspeed
 
Not to bring this thead back on topic or anything :) but...

Something I'm not sick of but just think is really funny: when a new student tries so hard to taxi the aircraft by turning the yoke like it was a steering wheel. Man, they try and try to turn that thing no matter how much you tell them to use their feet. It gets hard not to laugh sometimes.

EDIT: Whoops, this thread was back on topic! Missed the last three posts somehow. Carry on!
 
KBUF said:
Pointing out a mistake to them and they say "I know...." and nothing is done to correct it.

For example, just the other day on downwind in the traffic pattern. (student is 150 feet low and descending)

Me: watch your alti...
Student (hastily)...I KNOW I KNOW

As the plane continues to descend and build airspeed
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Or when you give an instruction, they acknowledge, but don't comply. Like:

Me: Turn right.
Them: Okay (still goes straight).
Me: Uh... turn right, there's traffic ahead.
Them: Okay, turn right. (still not turning.)
Me: Sigh, my airplane.
 
Mr_Creepy said:
"To know and not to do, is NOT TO KNOW"

That stops them.
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That would go over really well with my students.

Me: "To know and not to do, is NOT TO KNOW"
Student: ":confused: What is meaning sir?"
 
Mr_Creepy said:
It means don't say "I know" unless it also means "I will do."
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Me: "It means don't say "I know" unless it also means "I will do.""
Student: "you will do? Okay. You have contolls sir"
 
flyguy said:
Me: "It means don't say "I know" unless it also means "I will do.""
Student: "you will do? Okay. You have contolls sir"
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hahahahahaha:D

What we have here is a failure to communicate. We'll see how you are 11 months from now. I've been blessed lately with students who not only speak, but understand the english language as their second language.:)
 
Are you at Communist Air, excuse me I mean Delta Communist Academy?

I thought you were in California.

Anyway in your case, I would take the controls and say "Okay, you fail!"
 
Mr_Creepy said:
Are you at Communist Air, excuse me I mean Delta Communist Academy?

I thought you were in California.
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I think he is at Sierra, and is making a commentary about the complete dependence upon higher authority exhibited by the typical Chinese student....or else maybe I don't have a clue either. I'm not sure which. :D
 
Chris_Ford said:
Even though you've shown numerous times that you don't use it. But it's cool to pretend to ignore me too.

I love how you're never wrong Lloyd. You're just another know-it-all CFI in a sea of 'em. Hope you're proud of your wonderful knowledge. Too bad you can dish it out but not take it either... or take a joke.
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Chris, even when people are on my ignore list, I try to engage in positive conversation outside of the lav (where most people make the biggest butt of themselves). However, you can rest assured that you'll be completely ignored by me forever.

:)
 
ChinookDriver said:
Or when you give an instruction, they acknowledge, but don't comply. Like:

Me: Turn right.
Them: Okay (still goes straight).
Me: Uh... turn right, there's traffic ahead.
Them: Okay, turn right. (still not turning.)
Me: Sigh, my airplane.
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I'll normally ask them if they're going to will the airplane over to the right or if they're actually going to turn it in that case (I'm kind of a smart ass, thankfully most of my students are too).
 
SteveC said:
I think he is at Sierra, and is making a commentary about the complete dependence upon higher authority exhibited by the typical Chinese student....
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Yep, that would be it.
 
Two words:

"Pink Slip"

You can always turn the "loss of honor" thing around on them, too.

"I would lose much face if you do not pass your check ride."
 
mtsu_av8er said:
So, the AIM should change to suit the needs of the incompetent pilots at your home field?
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Are you really trying to say that using "upwind" instead of "departure leg" on the radio is an indicator of an incompetent pilot? I hear "departure leg" so rarely on the radio that you'd be calling literally thousands of pilots incompetent for it, myself included.

That's also not to mention that I've been told many many times by ATC to "extend your upwind." Are we dealing with incompetent controllers now? Seriously?

mtsu_av8er said:
The same thing that is wrong with landing on a Taxiway, taxiing at 40 knots, and ignoring radio calls. It's not the right way to do it.
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Apples and oranges. You don't land on taxiways, taxi at 40 knots, or ignore radio calls because it's "not the right way to do it." You don't do those things because they're real safety hazards that can end up with a busted up airplane or worse. You might argue that saying "upwind" instead of "departure leg" (since the latter is in the AIM) could cause you to swap paint with another airplane, but since thousands of pilots and controllers in fact say "upwind," that'd be a tough sell.
 
I fail to understand why one would argue so passionately about using wrong terminology. You can call a cat a biscuit---even stick it in the oven---that doesn't make it a biscuit.
 
Must be wonderful to know everything, to never be wrong, and have been a perfect student that never made mistakes or was slow to make a decision.
 
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