Things CFIs are Sick of saying, doing, or hearing
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desertdog71
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I heard another student say "Cessna 123LG is OFF the runway" LMAO!!!
I rushed outside to see them taxiing back to the FBO. I though they were actually OFF the runway in the grass somewhere.
I rushed outside to see them taxiing back to the FBO. I though they were actually OFF the runway in the grass somewhere.
moxiepilot
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I'm tired of hearing, "I have a photographic memory." I never knew so many people with photographic memories couldn't recall things.
lol
lol
ColMustard
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mtsu_av8er said:Nicely done!
That drives me absolutely crazy. Ask any of my students, and they'll tell you that I'll pretty much bite their freaking heads off if they turn out before they're within 300' of the TPA. It's written in the AIM pretty clearly!
If you're at a controlled airport, and the tower directs you to start your turn, that's one thing. Otherwise, do it the right way!
Talking to an older CFI, this part of the AIM was referring to w/in 300' of TPA when the TPA's were typically only 800' agl, hence the normal 500' agl before turning away from the departure leg.
Not sure of the truth to that, but I like my students to achieve 500' agl before making a turn. Makes it symmetrical with the base to final turn.
-ColM
jjm
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oh hell yes, I have a couple:
students who say "keep the squawk, change the talk" when given a frequency change but instructed to remain on the beacon code.
pilots holding the mike button down while thinking....
And finally-- a freshly minted private pilot who now feels it's necessary to offer advice to other pilots on CTAF OR in person. And the same pilots who now start commenting on the quality of the airplane that not 2 days ago, they took a #$!@ checkride in (and passed).
students who say "keep the squawk, change the talk" when given a frequency change but instructed to remain on the beacon code.
pilots holding the mike button down while thinking....
And finally-- a freshly minted private pilot who now feels it's necessary to offer advice to other pilots on CTAF OR in person. And the same pilots who now start commenting on the quality of the airplane that not 2 days ago, they took a #$!@ checkride in (and passed).
ColMustard
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One that drives me bonkers is when returning to the airport, and about to enter Class D airspace.
Me: "We have clearance yet?"
Student: "Nope"
Long pause.....
Me: "So we gonna call them or what?"
Me: "We have clearance yet?"
Student: "Nope"
Long pause.....
Me: "So we gonna call them or what?"
flyguy
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That same student I mentioned a few posts back, is like a computer. He will do only and exactly waht I tell him to do, and sometimes has trouble thinking for himself. Example: I tell him to maintain 2500 and fly to (insert airport name) and he will maintain 2500, fly to that airport, call the tower, recieve and read back his landing clearance, but won't descend from 2500 unless I tell him to.
Me: "do you have the runway in sight"
Student: " I have the runway in sight"
5 minutes later
Me: "do you still have the runway in sight"
Student: "no"
Me: "why not?"
Student: "I think we're right over the airport"
Me: "why aren't we landing right now"
Student: "we're too high"
Me: "why aren't we lower?"
Student: "You never told I could descend"
Tower: "(insert call sign) say intentions"
Student: "intentions"
Okay maybe a slight exaggeration, but it drives me nuts!
Me: "do you have the runway in sight"
Student: " I have the runway in sight"
5 minutes later
Me: "do you still have the runway in sight"
Student: "no"
Me: "why not?"
Student: "I think we're right over the airport"
Me: "why aren't we landing right now"
Student: "we're too high"
Me: "why aren't we lower?"
Student: "You never told I could descend"
Tower: "(insert call sign) say intentions"
Student: "intentions"
Okay maybe a slight exaggeration, but it drives me nuts!
KLB
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flyguy said:
Is he Chinese. If so, there you have it. You are going to really assert that they will be PIC sooner or later and that you won't be there to make the decisions. That was the biggest problem with that one Chinese student that I had......building him into a decision maker.
saxman
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FlyingNole said:
Hahaha.
Well I start with my first students on Tuesday. We'll see about the kill count. Hopefully I have a few good stories. I can just see it now on final....."airspeed, airspeed, airspeed, flare, flare, FLARE!"
I'm going to have to yell at myself in using more rudder now that I'm switching from a Piper to a Cessna.
Tex
flyguy
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Speaking of checklists, it drives me crazy how they have each checklist memorized perfectly, just recite the items rather than do them.Nick said:
Example: Engine start checklist
...."Master Switch On, Stroble Lights On, Prop Area Clear "Clear Prop" (then with eyes focussed squarely on the ignition switch)...area clear to left, area clear forward, area clear to right, ignition to start......
KLB
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I have to admitt that the best part of my job, is the satisfaction I get from seeing my foreign students solo, communicate with ATC, pass their checkride, and turn into awesome pilots all in about six months. Just seeing there communication skill get better and better is awesome.
mtsu_av8er
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flyguy said:
ColMustard
New Member
KLB said:
I agree, one of the most motivated and dedicated students I ever had. Finished his private in just under 5 months, coming from Japan, and learning the english language and radio talk during that time. Very impressive how well he picked things up, but he certainly had the smarts for it (Engineer for a Boeing subcontractor, wing structure division).
On the other note, just thought of another tidbit that drives me absolutely bonkers:
Any other CFI have students dial in the ATIS/AWOS/ASOS, jot down the info. and then leave it on, looping over and over again? arrrhghghg!!
flyguy
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ColMustard said:
Yeah, for the most part foreign students are highly motivated. I had a Japanese guy in my first ground school class and he did very well. I have 2 students from Korea now. One is the best student I've ever had (including all 87 students whome I've taught in ground school). The other spoke about 5 words of English when he got here and took it upon himself to improve. He only spoke English with his Korean room mates, he only read newspapers, magazines, etc. in English, and of course he studied and read the assignments I gave him. He also watched about 12 hours of TV every day, just to be exposed to people speaking English. Within about 2 months, his English had improved about 400%. I'm just beginning his flight training though (TSA delays) but if he aproaches it with the same intensity, I have very high hopes for him.
The Chinese students on the other hand are spoiled little brats. Some of them really do try very hard and do very well, but most of them that is not the case. They sleep in class, cheat on tests, don't try, and don't care. A lot of them just don't seem to want to be here. There is definately something to be said for choosing this profession because it is a life-long dream as opposed to being forced into it.