The University of Oklahoma and Pinnacle announce direct hire

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I don't have any time in the CRJ, but the ERJ is WAY easier to fly than the Chieftain.
 
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The simple fact of the matter is that regional Captains are, and at most companies for most of the last 30 years have been, flight instructors. This is evolutionary, not revolutionary. I, for one, have never seen a 300 hour pilot, not one (including me), who could tell his ass from a hole in the ground. Now they're going to be 21 years old, too. What could possibly go wrong!?
 
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what do these programs mean for people that may not go to these aviation colleges? Makes it harder to get hired it seems...could be wrong though.
 
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I hate to point this out, but I think you will soon find out that just about every regional airline will have a "program" similar to this University of Oklahoma program very soon. You might even find some of the majors with a similar program. It is the only way to get pilots into the right seat and work around the ATP requirement that will take effect on August 1, 2013.

This is not going away.

Joe
 
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It means is that if you have a commerical multi certificate in 2011 then you will get hired somewhere because the ATP requirement is not yet in effect.

In 2013 you will need to have an ATP rating OR you will need to go through one of these "programs" in order to be eligible to be hired by an airline.

Joe



1B9Pilot said:
what do these programs mean for people that may not go to these aviation colleges? Makes it harder to get hired it seems...could be wrong though.
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Im surprised this is occurring with some of the smaller aviation universities. Would have thought that more prestigious, such as ERAU and UND would have seen something like this first. Don't mean to put any school down, just saying that when someone mentions collegiate aviation, most people think ERAU/UND/Purdue, etc.

EDIT: I didnt know OU had a program until today :/ It never came up during my aviation school research back in high school
 
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I hate to point this out, but I think you will soon find out that just about every regional airline will have a "program" similar to this University of Oklahoma program very soon. You might even find some of the majors with a similar program. It is the only way to get pilots into the right seat and work around the ATP requirement that will take effect on August 1, 2013.

This is not going away.

Joe​
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I am lost here. How does this get them around the 1500 hours rule?
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There's a provision to count undergraduate aviation credits against the 1,500 rule.

Unless they took that out of the bill?
 
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jtrain609 said:
There's a provision to count undergraduate aviation credits against the 1,500 rule.

Unless they took that out of the bill?
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They should. I don't see how a classroom enviroment acquates to any real world experince. It's akin to a guy on here with a fresh PPL telling a 10,000+ hour ATP "how things are."
 
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I wonder if the community college I'm getting my ratings at will develop such an agreement. It might perk up their flagging pro pilot student base.
 
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mshunter said:
They should. I don't see how a classroom enviroment acquates to any real world experince. It's akin to a guy on here with a fresh PPL telling a 10,000+ hour ATP "how things are."
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That seems to be the idea in many other countries based on the JAA model: emphasizing theory over hour count. Don't know what the more effective model is BUT it does seem like American flight training (with the exception of collegiate flight programs) is very weak on theory.
 
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mshunter said:
They should. I don't see how a classroom enviroment acquates to any real world experince. It's akin to a guy on here with a fresh PPL telling a 10,000+ hour ATP "how things are."
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You must have missed that discussion...from over a year ago.
 
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jtrain609 said:
You must have missed that discussion...from over a year ago.
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I was there. I just think that it's complete BS that you can read a book and all of the sudden you're a better pilot.
 
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middies10 said:
Im surprised this is occurring with some of the smaller aviation universities. Would have thought that more prestigious, such as ERAU and UND would have seen something like this first. Don't mean to put any school down, just saying that when someone mentions collegiate aviation, most people think ERAU/UND/Purdue, etc.

EDIT: I didnt know OU had a program until today :/ It never came up during my aviation school research back in high school
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Many smaller schools have these programs. For instance, Lewis University, a small aviation school in IL, has a bridge with American Eagle. I know Kent State used to have one with Expressjet, not sure if that is still running. There are a lot of smaller aviation schools out there...just gotta look.
 
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aviatoralex said:
Any idea if
Embry-Riddle
Purdue
UND
WMU (Heard that they are in the progress of one)
K-State
Or other aviation universities have direct hire programs?
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Good God. Let's hope not. On the other hand, this will choke the supply of pilots applying to regional either way. The 1500 rule will kick in in 2013, or the "go here or go away" loophole they're trying to build into the rule will bottleneck the system. With a FOUR YEAR wait for replacement pilots.. Regionals would have to start raising pay to attract applicants from other sectors.
 
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flyeagle111 said:
Many smaller schools have these programs. For instance, Lewis University, a small aviation school in IL, has a bridge with American Eagle. I know Kent State used to have one with Expressjet, not sure if that is still running. There are a lot of smaller aviation schools out there...just gotta look.
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Don't you generally have to at least, you know, "interview" at most of these places? If I read the original post correctly, having managed to stay sober/awake enough to graduate with a 3.0 at a technical school makes you "simply the best".
 
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