The Tub Stacking Agency (TSA) strikes again!

I remember my first rotation at Southernjets. I was so used to walking up to the ticket counter, while I was at Skyway, and walking straight out to the airplane thru the office.

So I start heading for the ticket counter in Rochester, NY, which was my first leg/overnight.

"Son? Where ya goin?"

"I'm going to the aircraft!"

"Uhh, we got ta go thru securitay"

"Really?"

And yes, I'm jealous of your avatar.
 
Hahaha... That's pretty funny.

I do miss the smaller airports for that reason.



I keep thinking about changing the avatar but I can't bring myself to doing it... The guy that took it sent me that high def version of it- I'd like to get it printed so I can start an "ego wall" whenever I get around to buying a house.

I gotta give it to you, the jetcareers gnome is one of the funniest I've seen in a long time! There's something about long german names and gnomes that just make me giggle.


I'd love to have that "hell yeah" pic I sent you as an avatar, but I don't think it would make it past the censors. ;)
 
We were a little "festive" on gluhwein over in Frankfurt a few weeks ago and figured, "Hey! We need DESKGNOMES!!!" so I have the green hatted guy and Kristie's got a Moose.

DeskGnomes rock.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
I used to love the many airports we used to fly to at 9e where you could bypass... There's only one (that I thankfully frequent) in my current airline that I know of...so nice.
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It's been so long since I've overnighted in someplace like SHV, I actually FORGOT there are some stations that let us bypass security. I've been overnighting in places like PHL, PIT, XNA (which oddly enough you have to go through security, but the don't have locks on the jetbridges), GRR, etc. I'm sure if TSA had their way, they'd strip search us on the way to the airplane, though, rather than let us bypass and do our jobs.
 
Anybody get the memo about the TSA doing employee car searches and biometrics at ORD yet? I just got it today......
 
Is that for access to the SIDA or is that for access to employee parking?
 
Okay, wait. They're gonna search your car in the employee parking lot, find the Leatherman you had no intention of bringing on the flight with you, and confiscate it? BS. There's no way this would fly in MEM given the neighborhood the employee lot is located in. They'd be confiscating everyone's car jack protection.


Now, if it's for vehicles going into the SIDA, they shoulda been doing that about 6 years ago.
 
kellwolf said:
I'm with John on this one. We've gotta draw the line somewhere. First we have to take off shoes,...
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I never take off my shoes going through security. If you get the airport friendly shoes with no steel shank, you should be okay there. So we got that going for us....which is nice.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Is that for access to the SIDA or is that for access to employee parking?
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ALL EMPLOYEES,
The Department of Aviation (DOA) Biometric Access Control
units will be used to gain access to the airport on a
random basis at Post 1 beginning Monday, December 10, 2007.

This period will last for 30 days to train, familiarize,
and educate employees. After the 30 days, on Thursday,
January 10, 2007 ALL employees will be required to
validate their badge through the biometric access control
units at Post 1.

On Monday December 10, 2007 the DOA will also begin conducting
random intrusive vehicle searches in addition to the
cursory inspections that are presently taking place at post
one. These inspections could include a full vehicle search
including mirroring the bottom of you vehicle, a full
interior inspection, to include your trunk. You will be
asked to step out of your vehicle in order to complete this
inspection. Please secure all valuables and monitor this
inspection. They will be looking for any illegal items
(i.e.) guns, knifes, drugs, and other items of that nature.
They will be allowing other items that are on the prohibited
items list on a case by case basis (i.e.)golf clubs,
tools needed to perform a job function. Please leave all
unnecessary items at home if possible. If an illegal item
is found you could be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law. If you have a concern about an inspection
please tell the officer that you would like to speak to
his/her supervisor. A full list of prohibited items can be
found on the TSA website at WWW.TSA.GOV.


Hopefully the men in black suits don't come after me for posting that one :)
 
dvtpilot said:
ALL EMPLOYEES,
The Department of Aviation (DOA) Biometric Access Control
units will be used to gain access to the airport on a
random basis at Post 1 beginning Monday, December 10, 2007.

This period will last for 30 days to train, familiarize,
and educate employees. After the 30 days, on Thursday,
January 10, 2007 ALL employees will be required to
validate their badge through the biometric access control
units at Post 1.

On Monday December 10, 2007 the DOA will also begin conducting
random intrusive vehicle searches in addition to the
cursory inspections that are presently taking place at post
one. These inspections could include a full vehicle search
including mirroring the bottom of you vehicle, a full
interior inspection, to include your trunk. You will be
asked to step out of your vehicle in order to complete this
inspection. Please secure all valuables and monitor this
inspection. They will be looking for any illegal items
(i.e.) guns, knifes, drugs, and other items of that nature.
They will be allowing other items that are on the prohibited
items list on a case by case basis (i.e.)golf clubs,
tools needed to perform a job function. Please leave all
unnecessary items at home if possible. If an illegal item
is found you could be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law. If you have a concern about an inspection
please tell the officer that you would like to speak to
his/her supervisor. A full list of prohibited items can be
found on the TSA website at WWW.TSA.GOV.


Hopefully the men in black suits don't come after me for posting that one :)
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There's no way this is legal. In case nobody has read our Bill of Rights, somewhere around the fourth bullet it says something about...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

There is no reasonable here, nor any warrant issued. Has anybody called the ACLU about this?

EDIT: They MIGHT be able to search your car for things that you could use to bring down an airliner with, but drugs? Not a ####ing chance.
 
The TSA in BHB tried to do that to me once........key words: tried and once.

I was driving my car to a personal hangar within the fence that doesn't go all the way around the airport. Every one before me just let them search their car. I called the sheriffs department. If they issued a warrant I would have let the police (not the TSA) search my car, but otherwise not gonna happen.
 
Dvt's thing is at ORD.

My issue was with a "small town TSA" with nothing better to do between flights. I was the last one they ever tried doing it to.
 
My understanding is that at ORD, you go straight from employee parking to the AOA via bus without going through security. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Mike
 
Van_Hoolio said:
My understanding is that at ORD, you go straight from employee parking to the AOA via bus without going through security. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Mike
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DTW is the same way, BUUUT that doesn't give TSA the legal right to search your car in the parking lot. Who's to say you weren't going to take those nail clippers with you? There's tons of stuff in my car that they wouldn't let me on a plane with that I'm not taking out. A tire iron comes immediately to mind, but what if I get a flat on the way to work? Should I take it out b/c it's a restricted item? No.

What's the next step? Searching you as you walk out the door of your house to get in the car to drive to the employee lot?

As for the shoes, I was speaking more from a passenger stand point. There's really no real benefit for security when people take off their shoes. It was a knee jerk reaction to the whole Richard Reid thing and nothing more. They realized there was a loophole, and they wanted to give the APPEARANCE that it was fixed.
 
Here is another true story that shows how brilliant the TSA is. This past summer my mom was going through security in Kansas City (MCI). She was on her way back to Vermont, and presented her Vermont driver's license and boarding pass to the TSA agent. The TSA agent had never heard of Vermont, and thought that she was trying to give her a fake ID with the name of some state that she made up. Well the TSA agent called her supervisor who also inspected the Vermont driver's license. He informed her that Vermont is indeed one of the fifty states, and that the driver's license was valid. My mom was allowed to proceed throught security after that.

Apparently some of the people working for the TSA slept right through geography class.
 
pilot4500 said:
Here is another true story that shows how brilliant the TSA is. This past summer my mom was going through security in Kansas City (MCI). She was on her way back to Vermont, and presented her Vermont driver's license and boarding pass to the TSA agent. The TSA agent had never heard of Vermont, and thought that she was trying to give her a fake ID with the name of some state that she made up. Well the TSA agent called her supervisor who also inspected the Vermont driver's license. He informed her that Vermont is indeed one of the fifty states, and that the driver's license was valid. My mom was allowed to proceed throught security after that.

Apparently some of the people working for the TSA slept right through geography class.
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As funny as that story is, I'm very sad to report that Kansas City - KMCI is one of a very small handful of airports around the country that actually use a private security company in complete lieu of the TSA to do the security screening. I think it's Huntleigh, but I could be wrong.

Mike
 
pilot4500 said:
Here is another true story that shows how brilliant the TSA is. This past summer my mom was going through security in Kansas City (MCI). She was on her way back to Vermont, and presented her Vermont driver's license and boarding pass to the TSA agent. The TSA agent had never heard of Vermont, and thought that she was trying to give her a fake ID with the name of some state that she made up. Well the TSA agent called her supervisor who also inspected the Vermont driver's license. He informed her that Vermont is indeed one of the fifty states, and that the driver's license was valid. My mom was allowed to proceed throught security after that.

Apparently some of the people working for the TSA slept right through geography class.
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That's the average American for you, not just TSA employees (or contract company or whatever).
 
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