The sequester and flight delays

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rocketman5150

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So Janet Incompetano is out there breathlessly reporting flight delays due to layoffs at the TSA because of the sequester. It occurred to me to wonder why there have to be flight delays. There's nothing stopping the flights from pushing back on time. So, are there flight delays this morning? And if so, why?
 
rocketman5150 said:
So Janet Incompetano is out there breathlessly reporting flight delays due to layoffs at the TSA because of the sequester. It occurred to me to wonder why there have to be flight delays. There's nothing stopping the flights from pushing back on time. So, are there flight delays this morning? And if so, why?
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If the TSA and FAA are operating by the same rules as my government agency, sequester-related events won't occur until later in the month.
 
Ian J said:
If the TSA and FAA are operating by the same rules as my government agency, sequester-related events won't occur until later in the month.
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Compared to the 24-hour news cycle, sequester-related butthurt will be a "distant future" thing.
 
rocketman5150 said:
So Janet Incompetano is out there breathlessly reporting flight delays due to layoffs at the TSA because of the sequester. It occurred to me to wonder why there have to be flight delays. There's nothing stopping the flights from pushing back on time. So, are there flight delays this morning? And if so, why?
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I don't think the TSA furloughs would cause flight delays, just longer lines at the airport. FAA furloughs, on the other hand, might mean fewer tower controllers, and thus lower arrival rates at big airports. Fewer radar controllers will lead to fewer sectors being opened or decombined, leading to EDCTs and ground stops for popular routes. I believe those last two would stop flights from pushing back on time. Whether any of this occurs is yet to be seen.
 
I don't believe the large airports/big cities have anything to worry about, but the medium size airports located around GA airports may have delays especially if weather is the issue.
 
My girl friend works for the TSA (don't taze me bro!). She still has to report for work, and will be issued an I.O.U. TSA will still be at work, with no pay. She said it's the whole, and I quote "Maintaining the illusion of secuitay for the betterment of the sheeple."
 
Again - Is there any concrete evidence of flight delays above what's normally seen? Or is this the Trans Sec's equivalent of the Educ Sec's declaration last week, "Teachers are receiving pink slips already," which he walked back today?
 
tomokc said:
Again - Is there any concrete evidence of flight delays above what's normally seen? Or is this the Trans Sec's equivalent of the Educ Sec's declaration last week, "Teachers are receiving pink slips already," which he walked back today?
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jmreii said:
I don't believe the large airports/big cities have anything to worry about, but the medium size airports located around GA airports may have delays especially if weather is the issue.
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Autothrust Blue said:
Compared to the 24-hour news cycle, sequester-related butthurt will be a "distant future" thing.
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mshunter said:
My girl friend works for the TSA (don't taze me bro!). She still has to report for work, and will be issued an I.O.U. TSA will still be at work, with no pay. She said it's the whole, and I quote "Maintaining the illusion of secuitay for the betterment of the sheeple."
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Aren't they union now? And they will allow this?
 
longer lines on the security checkpoint -> people not getting to the gate in time -> baggage to be removed from AC -> delayed pushback -> missed slot for TO ->delays spreading through the whole day/flightplan

even though checking in baggage might become more and more rare it still happens
 
Tux_1987 said:
longer lines on the security checkpoint -> people not getting to the gate in time -> baggage to be removed from AC -> delayed pushback -> missed slot for TO ->delays spreading through the whole day/flightplan

even though checking in baggage might become more and more rare it still happens
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Ok, makes sense.
 
Don't airports have the option of NOT using TSA, and hiring an outside contractor to provide security? I recall reading that here a few months back.

If I was a mayor or airport director and determined that TSA was causing a bottleneck at my airport, I'd be tempted to replace them with a private contractor until the feds got things worked out. I doubt that the airport gets TSA for free, so what do I have to lose? As Tux wrote above, flights are going to push without all of their pax, and eventually airlines will tell pax to arrive at the airport two hours (three hours?) before their flight is scheduled to depart.
 
Personally, once Congress realizes their free military rides will be gone, I'm guessing sequestration will be short lived.
 
Issuing IOUs to Federal Employees? Bahahahah. No doubt the guardians of the status quo will be along shortly to explain how we're not becoming a Bannana Republic...
 
Tux_1987 said:
longer lines on the security checkpoint -> people not getting to the gate in time -> baggage to be removed from AC -> delayed pushback -> missed slot for TO ->delays spreading through the whole day/flightplan

even though checking in baggage might become more and more rare it still happens
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Since when do the airlines pull checked luggage of pax who don't show up? International, yeah. But domestic?? Nope.
 
CamYZ125 said:
Since when do the airlines pull checked luggage of pax who don't show up? International, yeah. But domestic?? Nope.
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Since 9-11 I thought they support to to prevent potential harm/damage by a suitcase w/o the passenger on board.
 
Bernoulli Fan said:
FAA furloughs, on the other hand, might mean fewer tower controllers, and thus lower arrival rates at big airports. Fewer radar controllers will lead to fewer sectors being opened or decombined, leading to EDCTs and ground stops for popular routes. I believe those last two would stop flights from pushing back on time.
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Bingo. Hit the nail on the head with this post about the delays we are going to see.
 
tomokc said:
Again - Is there any concrete evidence of flight delays above what's normally seen? Or is this the Trans Sec's equivalent of the Educ Sec's declaration last week, "Teachers are receiving pink slips already," which he walked back today?
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Yes there is concrete evidence which you can find in Bernoulli Fan's post.

Ray LaHood is a great Secretary of Transportation. It is ashame he is stepping down.
 
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