The Dummies Guide to Jumpseating

MusketeerMan

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Can you help me out?? I'm new at this and will be doing it a few times in the next couple of days.

I tried the search function, but it brings up jumpseating in about every other thread. I'm looking for the "rules" from you that have done it several times.

So far, this is what I know:

When you're allowed on the plane, introduce yourself to the lead FA and then you can ask the CA if it's alright to ride along.

If you list yourself as a jumpseater and you are put in a seat in the back, do you still ask permission from the CA? I've had others tell me if the CA isn't busy then definitely do it, but if the CA is busy, still introduce yourself to the lead FA and then have a seat.

The rest I think I understand..if your in a JS...speak when spoken to, otherwise sit back, shut up and enjoy the ride.

This would be a great sticky if someone could come up with the proper "rules" and etiquette for people like myself.

Thanks in advance for the advice!!

Andy
 
Ok, I can't remember where I stole this from, but I think it was pretty good...

Jumpseat Ettiquette

Here are my suggestions for getting a jumpseat and appropriate jumpseat ettiquette:

1) Travel in uniform. It always helps identify you as a pilot and often clears some of the bureaucracy. If you're not travelling in uniform, you'd better be travelling in business class attire (slacks/collared shirt), and have a tie available in your suitcase just in case- some places still have tie policies on the books and some captains might hold you to them.

2) Try to catch the crew at the gate when they come up. If that's not possible, ask the gate agent if it's okay to preboard so that you don't interrupt the closing of the flight or get in the way of boarding passengers.

3) If you can't preboard or meet the crew at the counter, when you go down the jetbridge, leave your bags at the door to the aircraft, off to the side and out of the way of boarding passengers. Enter the aircraft and politely introduce yourself to the lead FA. "Hi! My name is Bob, I work with Ragtime Airlines and am trying to jumpseat today. Mind if I poke my head upfront?"

4) Once you get the go ahead from the FA, step up to the cockpit entry way. Double check that you have EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO JUMPSEAT READY. You should have your medical, certificate, boarding pass, and company ID all set to hand to the captain. If you're flying via the CASS system, you should also have your passport out and ready.

Odds are the crew is doing something. If they are running a prestart checklist, WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE DONE WITH IT! If they aren't running a checklist, knock on the cockpit door, extend your hand (to shake) and say "Hello gentlemen" or "Hello, sir/ma'am/captain" "I'm Bob Hoover, and I was wondering if I could ride along with you today."

Most captains at this point will do the once over- some might reach for scab lists or ask for additional verification of some details. If it's not 30 seconds to departure, there's nothing wrong with asking about the latest news at the company or some other mundane detail. If it is getting towards pushtime, thank the crew for the ride, offer your assistance should it be needed and hightail it out of there.

If you need to retrieve your bag from the jetbridge, stand patiently by the exit to the cockpit/galley for a break in the passengers. Most good FA's will ask the boarding passengers to wait for just a second. If they don't you can turn to face the entry and take a step forward (which 99% of the time will cause the passengers to stop), but don't try to push your way out. Also bear in mind that for this particular moment, the people boarding the plane might think that you're one of the pilots, so put on a smile and return any greetings that you get. Inform the lead FA of whatever seat you're in and let them know that they can call upon you if they need you in any manner.

Finally, once you get settled in and the flight gets underway, take a few minutes to WATCH the safety briefing. It's professional courtesy to the flight attendants. Don't put on your ipod or go right to sleep, take the 90 seconds to maintain eye contact and set an example for the rest of the passengers. You'd be surprised how much they appreciate it.

Last step is when you depart. If possible wait for most of the passengers to leave, unless you're in a hurry to connect or meet a showtime. Cross the seatbelts in your row- leave any trash on the seat cushion (unless it will spill), and then work your way to the front. Thank the cabin and flight crew for the ride and be sure to offer your company's jumpseat to them in return.

I followed this policy for 4 years of commercial flying and was never denied a jumpseat due to my behavior, and never had any uncomfortable moments. Most times I ended up in first class, although I think those days are pretty much over for non-revs with the number of free upgrades that they give out these days...

Have fun- Fly safe!
 
If you list yourself as a jumpseater and you are put in a seat in the back, do you still ask permission from the CA? I've had others tell me if the CA isn't busy then definitely do it, but if the CA is busy, still introduce yourself to the lead FA and then have a seat.

Bad advice. Jumpseaters that did that when I was a Captain got called up to the flight deck and had to listen to me rant and rave for a few minutes about disrespectful, ungrateful jumpseaters. If they argued, they wouldn't get a ride. Always introduce yourself to the Captain and the copilot, and ask the Captain's permission for a ride on his airplane. When jumpseating, whether in the cabin or the actual, you are the Captain's guest. Extending that privilege is the Captain's right, not the gate agent's or the lead FA's.
 
Bad advice. Jumpseaters that did that when I was a Captain got called up to the flight deck and had to listen to me rant and rave for a few minutes about disrespectful, ungrateful jumpseaters. If they argued, they wouldn't get a ride. Always introduce yourself to the Captain and the copilot, and ask the Captain's permission for a ride on his airplane. When jumpseating, whether in the cabin or the actual, you are the Captain's guest. Extending that privilege is the Captain's right, not the gate agent's or the lead FA's.

I did just that this morning; introduced myself to the lead FA and stepped to the side and asked her if I could speak with the CA. She said definitely and within a few seconds, I was headed back to my seat.
 
My personal rule, if the CA has to sign a JS form for me to get on, I always thank him or her for the ride.
 
My personal rule, if the CA has to sign a JS form for me to get on, I always thank him or her for the ride.

I JS 3 times between yesterday and today and never saw the CA get a form to sign???...??? When is this done? The flights were open on Frontier that they ended up just issuing me a seat on the spot..maybe it's different that way or something.
 
Some airlines have forms to sign, others don't. Even when they don't have forms, you should still stop by to ask the Captain's permission for a ride.
 
This is all good advice. I would also add is to get in nice with the gate agents right off the bat. If you travel the same route every week you'll start to learn each other's names and what not, and can and will help you out in a pinch. Converesely, go and tick one off and you'll be karma'd 5 months later when you most need it.
 
I JS 3 times between yesterday and today and never saw the CA get a form to sign???...??? When is this done? The flights were open on Frontier that they ended up just issuing me a seat on the spot..maybe it's different that way or something.

For us, you're supposed to fill out a JS form, the CSA checks you in CASS and does their thing to let the CA know. Lately, if the flight has open seats, CSAs have been just assigning seats and not letting the crew even know about a JSer, which is totally against the FOM and jumpseat procedures. It may differ from airline to airline.
 
I think I got processed as a non rev yesterday coming from Newark to Detroit on CAL. Even though I wasn't required to talk with the captain because of how they did things, I still went up front to talk with the guys real quick. I guess it's just one of those things.
 
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