The difference between a drug charge and a DUI

I know of someone who has been hired by a major airline with a conviction of a misdemeanor charge of minor in possession (of marijuana) when they were like 16. It was a one time thing, and by the time he was interviewed by the major airline he had decades of good decisions to show that it was just him being a stupid kid.
To be honest I don't know anyone, or have second or third hand tales of anyone trying to get a job towing banners much less anything more after an adult drug conviction. I heard one story about a fellow CFI who lost a instrument student after he got arrested for drug possession. This career costs so much to get into and there is so much of a long poverty "dues paying" period that you'd have to be almost crazy to risk all of that.

I started flying young enough that I never got to go through that "useless stoner" period many young men transition through in their highschool or college days. I've decided when I retire at 65 or whatever then I can move to Colorado and get all cheech and chong if I want on the aft end of my life instead of the beginning. I actually really dislike being even tipsy much less drunk, so theres no way I'd actually do that, but its funny to imagine maybe working 20 years for an airline, and then when you retire showing up to turn in your books and badge as some kind of old man hippy in a pot-leaf t-shirt and hemp pants.
 
Flying Saluki said:
I had a co-worker who was an alcoholic. Everyone knew it, but no one tried to help. He got busted in a random test and lost his job. I don't know what he did for the next 8 years. I've always felt a little guilty that I didn't do something to maybe help prevent it. Then he got hired at United early this year. Now I'm torn between being happy for him and "WTF United?"
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No good deed goes unpunished. If you had tried to help, it is very possible that it would have backfired on you unless he was ready to admit he had a problem. These are always sticky situations.
 
A80TRACON said:
Though quite thick skinned, watch you're pronouns, jerk off. Retarded flew in the 50's, not now jackass.

Enjoy you're world class ATC experience to KLAS with your world class ATC service.
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Don't disagree, but I think "retarded" as used was a predicate adjective. As in "I now am a jackass". "Jackass" would be the predicate adjective describing the pronoun "I". I now certainly am a jackass. ;)
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Drugs r bad....mkay.
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MikeD said:
I got a Letter of Admonishment for failure to protect government property. And told that my career was over right there as a Second Lieutenant. Somehow I still managed to wander over to the F-117. :)

Which is ironic, because my act of releasing the rabbit to the wild, instead of allowing it to be killed for the purpose of survival training out there in the field, was protecting government property.
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If I had been in your SERE group, you would of had more than a LOA. I'm pretty sure you would have met with some minor injury like a bloody nose. That rabbit was not yours, it belonged to your group and you took food out of your groups mouths because you felt bad for the poor bunny. I hope you're a vegan, otherwise I'd say that is pretty hypocritical of you. We had 2 rabbits for six of us. Did you get one all to your self?
 
frankgh said:
If I had been in your SERE group, you would of had more than a LOA. I'm pretty sure you would have met with some minor injury like a bloody nose. That rabbit was not yours, it belonged to your group and you took food out of your groups mouths because you felt bad for the poor bunny. I hope you're a vegan, otherwise I'd say that is pretty hypocritical of you. We had 2 rabbits for six of us. Did you get one all to your self?
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That was no ordinary rabbit. That leporidae was laced with plague and placed there as a BOMD (a bunny of mass destruction). I reckon @MikeD was the only one with the SA to recognize it.
 
frankgh said:
If I had been in your SERE group, you would of had more than a LOA. I'm pretty sure you would have met with some minor injury like a bloody nose.
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I would pay good money to watch anyone try and do that, including you. Wouldn't last long I am guessing, but it would be pretty amusing.
 
frankgh said:
If I had been in your SERE group, you would of had more than a LOA. I'm pretty sure you would have met with some minor injury like a bloody nose. That rabbit was not yours, it belonged to your group and you took food out of your groups mouths because you felt bad for the poor bunny. I hope you're a vegan, otherwise I'd say that is pretty hypocritical of you. We had 2 rabbits for six of us. Did you get one all to your self?
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Oh piss off. You mean the food the rest of the group members had stashed amongst them?

Trust me, we were all just fine when it came to being able to drop a few pounds.

Pardon me if I don't subscribe to your kool-aid self righteousness, comrade.
 
A Life Aloft said:
I would pay good money to watch anyone try and do that, including you. Wouldn't last long I am guessing, but it would be pretty amusing.
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And what may I ask are you basing your assumptions on? I just let you know not to get between me and food so you might deduce that I am not diminutive in stature.
 
Piss Off? Kool aid self righteousness? Was it not your self righteousness that led you to release the poor little bunny rabbit? At the detriment of others? Did I touch a nerve? I also don't subscribe to that left wing commie comrade jive either! Don't go getting your nose out of joint! :stir:
 
frankgh said:
And what may I ask are you basing your assumptions on? I just let you know not to get between me and food so you might deduce that I am not diminutive in stature.
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What I deduce is that you could probably not eat anything for a good few months, and likely be just fine.

frankgh said:
Piss Off? Kool aid self righteousness? Was it not your self righteousness that led you to release the poor little bunny rabbit? At the detriment of others? Did I touch a nerve? I also don't subscribe to that left wing commie comrade jive either! Don't go getting your nose out of joint! :stir:
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The detriment of others? In a training evolution in Washington state? Seriously? :)

C'mon now, as if we were down behind Warsaw Pact lines real world. Which would obviously be a different story.
 
One simple lesson that parents are failing to teach their children is that words and actions have consequences. Often, these consequences are unjust.

My girlfriend smokes pot. Not a big deal. She doesn't have an addictive personality and doesn't smoke daily. She has a good career and a pot charge wouldn't affect her career. Yet, she has a hard time understanding my concern for the consequences.

I don't want pot in my car, period. I don't want her carrying an empty purse that a drug dog would have an interest in. I don't want anybody dropping off pot at my house, I have a strict "no dealer" policy. She doesn't seem to understand legal and social consequences. I can thank her parents. Pot, as benign as it is, has consequences in my life.

In teaching children and teens about drugs many tend to get all scientific and fail to talk about consequences. Something as simple as mentioning the social, legal, and professional consequences of smoking pot is ignored.

It's not just about drugs. A generation (or more) and their kids think they can defend anything they say or do in a Lincoln-Douglas debate format. They forget that other people have opinions and sometimes those opinions matter, alot.
 
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