The best part of being an Airline Pilot In your Opinion?

FlyingNole said:
This isnt meant to be a rip on Pinnacle, but there are a couple of guys who aren't around anymore that could have told you that the 200 can go to FL410. :(

No,no it can get up to FL410. But like I said only under certain curcumstances and only when the gods smile upon you. But it *can* safely get up to "four-one-oh" just not all the time or under normal circumstances!
 
it's all about ISA, weight, and the hi/low speed buffett.

There's probably some other factors in there too but that's why he have Seagull to ess'plain the technical details! :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
it's all about ISA, weight, and the hi/low speed buffett.

There's probably some other factors in there too but that's why he have Seagull to ess'plain the technical details! :)

Whats the max on the MD-90?
 
Altitude? FL370.

But that's the max and doesn't necessarily mean you can often fly that high or even if you can, if you should really be up there.

High speed, high swept-wing flight is an entirely different language than recips and turboprops because you have to (really simply put) watch out for "Mmo/Vmo" on the high end and stalling on the low end and the difference between overspeed and stalling can be only a few knots. IF the engines have the performance to keep you in the safe zone.

And that's in smooth air. You start adding in G-protections for turbulence and manuevering and it can get interesting!
 
Doug Taylor said:
Fish tacos are the bomb diggity. Trust me. Throw a little tomatillo salsa on that puppy and add a frosty cerveza, it's life changing.
:yeahthat: Yeah, we have a place out here in Socal called Wahoo's Fish Taco. It's amazing.
 
FlyingNole said:
This isnt meant to be a rip on Pinnacle, but there are a couple of guys who aren't around anymore that could have told you that the 200 can go to FL410. :(
Yes, I know. My former law firm has that case. Stupid and sad.
 
FlyingNole said:
This isnt meant to be a rip on Pinnacle, but there are a couple of guys who aren't around anymore that could have told you that the 200 can go to FL410. :(

The 200 can do it, but they exceeded the limitations of the aircraft on that stunt. MikeD explained it pretty well when he was around here.
 
the only way i can see the -200 making it to 410 is with JATO rockets...

those planes are POS (at higher altitudes, performance wise)
 
GaTechKid said:
The best part of airline flying is breaking out of an overcast layer into bright blue sky on your last leg and then feeling relieved that your flight home is wide open...

Happiness is a helpful gate agent.
 
The best part of being an airline pilot?

Sunrise at altitude. Sunset at altitude. Watching a line of thunderstorms at night from a distance. "Greasing" a landing. Having a fearful flyer pass a note saying thank you for making the flight so comfortable for them. An early morning, summertime departure. Having kids up front in the cockpit before and after flight. Helping a passenger calm down when they feel their world is falling apart traveling today. Older people and the way they compliment a smooth flight. Older ladies when they complain about your "greaser" landing (you just gotta laugh!). Visual approaches. Visual approaches when tower says, "make short approach." 250 knots to the marker, yet still complying with all company mandated restrictions on being configured and stabilized. A 30-degree banked turn to final when you line it right up on the centerline. Flying with a guy or gal who has "been there, done that" and coming away learning more than you could imagine. Smooth air. Breaking out of a could deck on a gloomy morning to find a beautiful sunrise. A good overnight. A good overnight with a good crew. A good overnight with more than one good crew! When it is snowing at home, relaxing on a beach at work. Having your kids look up to you for who you are at home, and who you are at work. Having your kids tell you every day they want to be a pilot just like you (what kid wants to be a senior analyst?). Most importantly, dealing with problems, issues, troubles, and idiocyncracies and coming through all of them knowing you did the right thing and got everyone from A to B safely that day.

Through it all, there is really no job I'd rather do.
 
FlyChicaga said:
The best part of being an airline pilot?

Sunrise at altitude. Sunset at altitude. Watching a line of thunderstorms at night from a distance. "Greasing" a landing. Having a fearful flyer pass a note saying thank you for making the flight so comfortable for them. An early morning, summertime departure. Having kids up front in the cockpit before and after flight. Helping a passenger calm down when they feel their world is falling apart traveling today. Older people and the way they compliment a smooth flight. Older ladies when they complain about your "greaser" landing (you just gotta laugh!). Visual approaches. Visual approaches when tower says, "make short approach." 250 knots to the marker, yet still complying with all company mandated restrictions on being configured and stabilized. A 30-degree banked turn to final when you line it right up on the centerline. Flying with a guy or gal who has "been there, done that" and coming away learning more than you could imagine. Smooth air. Breaking out of a could deck on a gloomy morning to find a beautiful sunrise. A good overnight. A good overnight with a good crew. A good overnight with more than one good crew! When it is snowing at home, relaxing on a beach at work. Having your kids look up to you for who you are at home, and who you are at work. Having your kids tell you every day they want to be a pilot just like you (what kid wants to be a senior analyst?). Most importantly, dealing with problems, issues, troubles, and idiocyncracies and coming through all of them knowing you did the right thing and got everyone from A to B safely that day.

Through it all, there is really no job I'd rather do.

Wow..Matt family life is going well for you. Can't wait to see you again in Vegas this time with your better half!

:)
 
Doug Taylor said:
Altitude? FL370.

But that's the max and doesn't necessarily mean you can often fly that high or even if you can, if you should really be up there.

High speed, high swept-wing flight is an entirely different language than recips and turboprops because you have to (really simply put) watch out for "Mmo/Vmo" on the high end and stalling on the low end and the difference between overspeed and stalling can be only a few knots. IF the engines have the performance to keep you in the safe zone.

And that's in smooth air. You start adding in G-protections for turbulence and manuevering and it can get interesting!

Why is it that Military Aircraft can go so much higher? I have been at FL510 in a C-141 before, and we usually cruised in the 40's. Also been higher in a KC-135.
 
LoadMasterC141 said:
Why is it that Military Aircraft can go so much higher? I have been at FL510 in a C-141 before, and we usually cruised in the 40's.

Don't know which C-141 you've been flying in, but my experience in the C-141A/B/C the max altitude was FL410. Normally cruise was usually FL330 to FL390, most times 350 or below so one pilot didn't have to suck the hose when the other pilot got out of the seat. I'll have to dig into some boxes in the garage to pull out my Dash-1 to have a reference page, though.
 
MDPilot said:
Don't know which C-141 you've been flying in, but my experience in the C-141A/B/C the max altitude was FL410. Normally cruise was usually FL330 to FL390, most times 350 or below so one pilot didn't have to suck the hose when the other pilot got out of the seat. I'll have to dig into some boxes in the garage to pull out my Dash-1 to have a reference page, though.

Hehe...Maybe I am smoking crack. I'll believe the 141 pilot over the Loadmaster any day;)

I swear we went higher than that, but again, I was just the nub. I'll check my -1 when I get home too.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Is the better half coming this year? That's exciting as hell!

If the stars align, yes. I just need to a) get off for work, b) get more open time so I can afford it!
 
The CRJ2 can do FL410 with a little bit of patience, if you're not heavy and if you don't let your speed get too slow. That's the key. I've been there twice, both revenue flights, didn't have any trouble getting their either time because we kept the speed up.

Will I go there again in the -200? Probably not, unless it has new engines on it.

The CR7 can do it, too, but again you have to be light and keep the forward speed going.
 
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