Teaching private in a plane that won't stall

[Roger, Roger]

Did I misunderstand or are some people saying that a power-off descent at best glide speed is a stall because the airplane is descending and you can no longer maintain altitude?

That was what I got from some of the posts. I'm baffled because I had no idea the concept of a stalled wing vs an un-stalled wing was that complicated or that widely misunderstood.

Roger, Roger, were you ever able to do a power on stall in the twinstar? i never really could on either my private or commercial.... I just said "....and recover" and went full power after a few seconds of nothing really happening.

You know, now that I think back, not really. I discussed this with one of my old chief instructors and he reminded me of that feature on the DA42 also.

 

[gotWXdagain]

How would one do a checkride in an airplane with a canard for a horizontal stabilizer?

 

[Nihon_Ni]

How would one do a checkride in an airplane with a canard for a horizontal stabilizer?

You wouldn't...

Aircraft and Equipment Required for the Practical Test

The private pilot—airplane applicant is required by 14 CFR section 61.45, to provide an airworthy, certificated aircraft for use during the practical test. This section further requires that the aircraft must:
1. be of U.S., foreign or military registry of the same category, class, and type, if applicable, for the certificate and/or rating for
which the applicant is applying;
2. have fully functioning dual controls, except as provided for in 14 CFR section 61.45(c) and (e); and
3. be capable of performing all AREAS OF OPERATION appropriate to the rating sought and have no operating limitations, which prohibit its use in any of the AREAS OF OPERATION, required for the practical test.​

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

FAA-H-8083-3A Airplane Flying Handbook, Chapter 4

Right. What determine the critical angke of attack? How do you know when it has been exceeded?

Does your airplane have a Reynolds number? If you say a stall happens when there is seperation, any airplane with a r value in its wing design is permanently stalled.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, the break is a trait some planes exhibit during a stall, but is not, and never will be the universal indication of a stall. There are lots of planes that don't break, and can/may/are used for checkrides.

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

How would one do a checkride in an airplane with a canard for a horizontal stabilizer?

Canards are traditionally designed to stall before the wing. It may not be fun, but it's often a non event. Read up on the long ez.. this was touted as a safety feature.

 

[gotWXdagain]

Canards are traditionally designed to stall before the wing.

That was why I asked, although the answer to my question above seems to cover it.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

You wouldn't...

Not true at all. You're assuming that a canard aircraft can't stall, which may or may not be true, depending on design.

 

[Nihon_Ni]

Not true at all. You're assuming that a canard aircraft can't stall, which may or may not be true, depending on design.

You're absolutely right. I know you can't stall the Rutan designs, but the simple addition of a canard doesn't make a plane stall-proof. Good catch!