TCAS. Done correctly?

Rosstafari said:
Please explain.
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The autopilot vertical mode arms to "TCAS" (armed mode is shown in blue... hence the "tcas blue" call out) on a TA and then goes active on a RA and flies the escape profile into the green and then back to where you were once clear of the conflict.
 
I'm not sure if I like that or not. I'll set the s*** off out of your TCAS with my gray plane. Not sure if you want to be automatically responding to that. Maybe useful sometimes, other times (like that one) not so much. Granted it probably isn't a huge deviation in the first place, so maybe it doesn't matter.
 
///AMG said:
I'm not sure if I like that or not. I'll set the s*** off out of your TCAS with my gray plane. Not sure if you want to be automatically responding to that. Maybe useful sometimes, other times (like that one) not so much. Granted it probably isn't a huge deviation in the first place, so maybe it doesn't matter.
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If you’re in the gray plane, you’ll set it off no matter what we do. All we can do is respond appropriately to the RA. If you think we can do any maneuvers to avoid a pointy jet, you cray cray.

I know you know this, but it’s not supposed to be a violent maneuver.
 
Stone Cold said:
If you’re in the gray plane, you’ll set it off no matter what we do. All we can do is respond appropriately to the RA. If you think we can do any maneuvers to avoid a pointy jet, you cray cray.

I know you know this, but it’s not supposed to be a violent maneuver.
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Oh yeah, that is exactly my point. We were never gonna hit you. Some airspace ceiling says that. If I set off an RA, I imagine autobus has a controlled reasonable response. No chance the Boeing version of that would be pleasant (if it existed)......it would probably close the fuel crossfeed valve and turn the pack temp knobs up one millimeter, resulting in widespread heat casualties
 
I think that folks would be less heavy-handed if everybody had TCAS 2. Knowing that the other guy might be TCAS 1 or No-CAS might be causing some folks to assume a worst case scenario and prompt an aggressive response to an RA.
 
///AMG said:
Oh yeah, that is exactly my point. We were never gonna hit you. Some airspace ceiling says that. If I set off an RA, I imagine autobus has a controlled reasonable response. No chance the Boeing version of that would be pleasant (if it existed)......it would probably close the fuel crossfeed valve and turn the pack temp knobs up one millimeter, resulting in widespread heat casualties
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So I see you’re liking the 73. :D :D
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I think that folks would be less heavy-handed if everybody had TCAS 2. Knowing that the other guy might be TCAS 1 or No-CAS might be causing some folks to assume a worst case scenario and prompt an aggressive response to an RA.
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As a no-CAS guy, mostly, I take offense at this :)

Seriously though, what is TCAS 2? Do I have it? Can I sell it on ebay?
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I figured that the newest toys might. That said, did any TacAir aircraft get ILS other than Prowlers?
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Nope, though I think it is theoretically possible to configure any F/A-18 with one. It requires removing the ICLS box and replacing it with a civil ILS box though. We don't have any "exped" Super Hornets (they are all "boat" squadrons), so it wouldn't serve a good purpose other than for cross country flights in between deployments. Only exped Growlers have civilian ILS as well, so I've never used it (other than one flight borrowing a VAQ-209 jet, and the button pushing wasn't intuitive enough for me to figure out). Great news though, KNUW just recertified the ICLS RWY 14 approach, after who knows how long (we lost our shore ICLS and ACLS approaches in KNTU about a decade ago after funding was removed, wasn't around Whidbey at the time, but I imagine they lost theirs at a similar time.
 
///AMG said:
Nope, though I think it is theoretically possible to configure any F/A-18 with one. It requires removing the ICLS box and replacing it with a civil ILS box though. We don't have any "exped" Super Hornets (they are all "boat" squadrons), so it wouldn't serve a good purpose other than for cross country flights in between deployments. Only exped Growlers have civilian ILS as well, so I've never used it (other than one flight borrowing a VAQ-209 jet, and the button pushing wasn't intuitive enough for me to figure out). Great news though, KNUW just recertified the ICLS RWY 14 approach, after who knows how long (we lost our shore ICLS and ACLS approaches in KNTU about a decade ago after funding was removed, wasn't around Whidbey at the time, but I imagine they lost theirs at a similar time.
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EA-6B Block 89 provided ILS but I’m not sure if it was limited to expeditionary squadrons.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I think that folks would be less heavy-handed if everybody had TCAS 2. Knowing that the other guy might be TCAS 1 or No-CAS might be causing some folks to assume a worst case scenario and prompt an aggressive response to an RA.
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I think you're giving people too much credit. I've had more than one RA in the last 6 months and at no time did the thought ever cross my mind that the other guy's equipment may be different. I simply responded smoothly to the command and reported to ATC (who caused it both times).
 
Just had my most nerve wracking RA so far in 20 years. A VFR Caravan loitering over the Jackson waypoint at the crossing altitude of 12K. I got a descend command which I followed almost instantly but smoothly then a climb command. That’s what spooked me. I was sucked into the HGS and did not see the aircraft but the FO did.

No one was aware any maneuvering occurred other than the FO. Who said I followed the commands exactly.


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