Sweatpants Article

Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, bitch......thats all you guys can do these days. If any of you ever made an attempt to get off campus and be social at places other than Squires and Wilkerson you would find no one in sweatpants and more than decent looking women.
 
TonyC said:
Yes, I did.

Jace referred to it as an article.

I bit.

:whatever:

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It is an article. It's in the newspaper. It's an opinion article.

Wikipedia:
A News Article is an article published in a print or Internet news medium such as a newspaper, newsletter, news magazine, or news-oriented website that discusses current or recent news of either general interest (i.e. daily newspapers) or on a specific topic (i.e. political or trade news magazines, club newsletters, or technology news websites). It can contain photographs, accounts, statistics, graphs, recollections, interviews, polls, debates on the topic, etc.
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Mtts422 said:
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, bitch......thats all you guys can do these days. If any of you ever made an attempt to get off campus and be social at places other than Squires and Wilkerson you would find no one in sweatpants and more than decent looking women.
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I've never seen that. What else is there to do, but be opinionated? j/k
 
TXaviator said:
wait, youre telling me those girls look good????

baaaahahahhahaha
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:yeahthat:. After looking through some of the UND groups on facebook, my absolute sympathy goes out to you guys. I thought Purdue was bad.

On the bright side, if you're able to pick up chicks there, you'll be able to get girls anywhere.
 
Screw it...There are a few of us fighting a loosing battle against the "I hate this •hole" contingent.

For all you younger guys and prospectives, it's not nearly as bad as some of these guys make it sound. Yes the winters are cold, and the women do not all look like they're straight out of SoCal. But the place is what you make of it. If you choose to sit at home every night bitch about how terrible it is here and count down the days till graduation then your going to be miserable. Go out and be proactive, join a fraternity or sorority, do something in the community, be a big brother or sister to a local kid, coach a sports team, if none of those are for you then just get involved in something OTHER than aviation. The aero program is great but if you limit your friends exclusively to propheads that "just want to graduate so they can move back to wherever it is that high school was so great they can't wait to live there again" then it's going to be tough to be happy here.

Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but just a response to the general discontent and bashing lately.
 
hey mtts,

both me and jace are older than you, so lose the "young bucks" crap. and we're also involved in a LOT outside aviation. hell, we bash propheads too.

we bash everything that sucks, equally.

and holy #### me and chris_ford find common ground once again! beers for all!:insane:
 
Mtts422 said:
Screw it...There are a few of us fighting a loosing battle against the "I hate this •hole" contingent.

For all you younger guys and prospectives, it's not nearly as bad as some of these guys make it sound. Yes the winters are cold, and the women do not all look like they're straight out of SoCal. But the place is what you make of it. If you choose to sit at home every night bitch about how terrible it is here and count down the days till graduation then your going to be miserable. Go out and be proactive, join a fraternity or sorority, do something in the community, be a big brother or sister to a local kid, coach a sports team, if none of those are for you then just get involved in something OTHER than aviation. The aero program is great but if you limit your friends exclusively to propheads that "just want to graduate so they can move back to wherever it is that high school was so great they can't wait to live there again" then it's going to be tough to be happy here.

Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but just a response to the general discontent and bashing lately.
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Thank you for your opinion. People can consider yours as much as they can consider mine. Prospective students: It really is as bad as we say it is. That is my opinion. BUT, the winters really aren't as bad as you'd expect them to be...it's good flying weather too...so there's something positive.

I am quite involved in outside activities. I am NOT involved in a fraternity. I'm a bit too old for that - plus I can't get myself to relate to the binge drinking culture that flourishes here in the Dakotas as it's sickening (Legendary North Dakota! Visit North Dakota for your next vacation...sorry, just a plug).

Most of my friends aren't propheads and the ones who are we end up talking about the common interests and views we share...and of course ones we don't share. Rarely is the topic of aviation discussed as it can become very repetitive.
 
hey mtts,

both me and jace are older than you, so lose the "young bucks" crap. and we're also involved in a LOT outside aviation. hell, we bash propheads too.
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Older than me? I have no clue, I'm 23. Been at UND longer than me? No. (not that that's a good thing)

I wasn't refering to you guys as "young" I was throwing that out there for all of the kids that just got here or are thinking about coming here.

All I'm saying is that four years ago I was sitting around with all of my aviation buddies bashing the same stuff that gets bashed here day in and day out, smells like •, girls are fat, people talk funny, blah blah blah. Well that got old after a semester, so I branched out, joined a few groups made some friends outside of aviation, and all of the sudden this place wasn't nearly as bad. If you can surround yourself with people that are over the fact that there are a few downsides to living here, you might acutally have some fun that doesn't come in the form of seeing who can come up with the latest and greatest fact that makes GF suck.

I realize I'm not going to be changing any opinions, that wasn't the point of the post, just thought someone should play a little devils advocate around here.
 
Mtts422 said:
Older than me? I have no clue, I'm 23. Been at UND longer than me? No. (not that that's a good thing)

I wasn't refering to you guys as "young" I was throwing that out there for all of the kids that just got here or are thinking about coming here.

All I'm saying is that four years ago I was sitting around with all of my aviation buddies bashing the same stuff that gets bashed here day in and day out, smells like •, girls are fat, people talk funny, blah blah blah. Well that got old after a semester, so I branched out, joined a few groups made some friends outside of aviation, and all of the sudden this place wasn't nearly as bad. If you can surround yourself with people that are over the fact that there are a few downsides to living here, you might acutally have some fun that doesn't come in the form of seeing who can come up with the latest and greatest fact that makes GF suck.

I realize I'm not going to be changing any opinions, that wasn't the point of the post, just thought someone should play a little devils advocate around here.
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We're around the same age...I'm 25...but it doesn't matter anyway. When I first moved here two years ago it was indeed hell, but I do have a great group of friends. That's what keeps me (and other people) sane.

When you are 4 years overdue for a Bachelor's degree like me, you have an overwhelmingly anxious attitude to get out of here and on with your life... I'm sure you yourself are almost done graduating...I graduate next May, thank gaud!
 
Sweatpants make you very horny.....:D

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Mtts422 said:
Screw it...There are a few of us fighting a loosing battle against the "I hate this •hole" contingent.

For all you younger guys and prospectives, it's not nearly as bad as some of these guys make it sound. Yes the winters are cold, and the women do not all look like they're straight out of SoCal. But the place is what you make of it. If you choose to sit at home every night bitch about how terrible it is here and count down the days till graduation then your going to be miserable. Go out and be proactive, join a fraternity or sorority, do something in the community, be a big brother or sister to a local kid, coach a sports team, if none of those are for you then just get involved in something OTHER than aviation. The aero program is great but if you limit your friends exclusively to propheads that "just want to graduate so they can move back to wherever it is that high school was so great they can't wait to live there again" then it's going to be tough to be happy here.

Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but just a response to the general discontent and bashing lately.
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:yeahthat:

College is what you make it, no matter where you go to school.
 
CAFFEINE said:
:yeahthat:

College is what you make it, no matter where you go to school.
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JaceTheAce said:
Very true, but there is a point where all your efforts are limited to how •tty the place is! :D
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Contradicting yourself there Jace. I think you missed the point of the statement "college is what you make of it, no matter....".

Just like all aspects of life. Some people enjoy the heck out of life no matter what their circumstances, while others always, always, always find something to complain about. I'll put Lloyd up as a good example of the first type of person.....

:bandit:
 
JaceTheAce said:
It is an article. It's in the newspaper. It's an opinion article.

Wikipedia:
A News Article is an article published in a print or Internet news medium such as a newspaper, newsletter, news magazine, or news-oriented website that discusses current or recent news of either general interest (i.e. daily newspapers) or on a specific topic (i.e. political or trade news magazines, club newsletters, or technology news websites). It can contain photographs, accounts, statistics, graphs, recollections, interviews, polls, debates on the topic, etc.
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It's presence in a newspaper does not by default make it an article. Newspapers also contain advertisements, editorials, and letters to the editor.

If you seek a definition of article, I suggest a reputable dictionary such as www.merriam-webster.com. The definition of article you'll find there is:

"1 d : a nonfictional prose composition usually forming an independent part of a publication (as a magazine)"

Wikipedia is only as good as the people who have chosen to contribute on a particular article, and can be changed on a whim. I could change the definition myself, if I were so inclined. It is therefore unreliable. It is useful for limited purposes, but unreliable.

Nonetheless, I'll work with you on Wikipedia and expand my point. Your definition of "news article" is "an article..." Already we've violated the first rule of definitions by attempting to define a word by using that word. Unless we can begin with a definition of "article", the definition of "news article" is meaningless. Wikipedia calls an article "a stand-alone section of a larger written work." Working with that, and substituting and editing for ease of reading, we find that Wiki's "news article" is "a stand-alone section of a [newspaper] ... that discusses current or recent news of general interest ... or on a specific topic."

Unless you consider the wearing of sweatpants by undergrads to be a news item, this prose doesn't fit the Wiki definition. It is not a news article. You've highlighted the phrase "debates on the topic" in your Wiki quote. Does that mean you think Rhiannon Conley presents a debate? I only see one opinion presented. Such does not constitute a debate.


I'll help you determine what it is, though. I'll even use Wikipedia.

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That's what this is - - a letter to the editor. One guy's rant about his opinion. And his opinion is not endorsed by the publication in which it appears.




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