SWAP and re-routing...

adreamer

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Well, Any NY center guy/gals on JC? I like to hear what SWAP means to aircraft seperation, entrail space...etc? :confused:

When you re-route an airplane from original flight plan, what process are involved? Someone care to explain. :p
 
Also, why do I never get the opportunity to pull out and use that fancy SWAP route chart? Looks like it is a set of parallel offshore RNAV routes running north/south. I've never seen or heard of them being used, however.
 
Those are AR routes or Q routes depending on where they are going. You need an exemption (for more than 50 miles offshore) to run the AR routes. I think just good old /G (or RNAV equivalent) will get you on the Q routes.
 
I realize this is about a month late, however, there wasn't really a good answer to the OP's question.

1) Generally speaking, when SWAP is instituted there have already been other traffic management initiatives in place i.e. miles in trail, minutes in trail (not widely used), airspace flow programs/flow control areas, etc. to manage the demand heading into the NY area.
2) There are three different sets of SWAP routes: SERMN (SWAP Escape Routes Metro NY) North, South, and East. They can be implemented separately, together, or in any combination as needed. Usually, you file normal routes and request or are assigned the re-route. You must fly the route exactly as depicted and you will be altitude restricted until leaving ZNY's airspace. My advice is to make it known to ATC you are willing to accept a SWAP routing. In addition, being a pathfinder aircraft could help your cause as well.
3) The parallel off-shore, deep water routes you could be talking about are specifically referred to as the AZEZU routes. They are available depending on whether or not the military is willing to provide some VACAPES airspace for civilian use. They are meant as an alternative option for those operators flying between the Northeast and Florida or vice versa. Excellent option if they are available and you are equipped.
 
I know from a pilots perspective out of EWR when they're running SWAP it sounds like each route gets specifically approved.

PS. I don't like being a pathfinder. Leave that to guys who have better radar.
 
You are quite right about each alternate routing being verified by ATC. Sometimes you will hear it over frequency, other times it will be taking place directly with the ATCSCC through back channels. For you general aviation/corporate guys, let me re-iterate the fact that you should notify ATC you are willing to accept a re-route. Tell them you are willing to accept a DUCT route, SERMN route, etc. out of any of the NY Metros. Being proactive can save you time and a substantial headache. The OIS and National Playbook are your best friends. Go to: www.fly.faa.gov/ois. The playbook can be accessed on the menu on the left hand side of the page. Know how ground delays, ground stops, flow control areas, airspace flow programs, etc. impact your flight. Airline guys, thats why you have dispatchers. Cheers!
 
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