SWA taking off with music over PA?

Derg said:
Here's the question you're not asking yourself as captain: "Is it worth it?"

At the end of the day, when Grandma McButters complains to the FAA, the company is going to drop that in your lap and walk out of the room.

Everything is "cool!", "fun!", full of "yisssssss!" and "what's the big deal?!" when you're not the one ultimately responsible and have to do the uhhh… answering of the questions.
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So I'll ask again. What will the crew up front be violated for, and how exactly was safety compromised?
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Soooo glad I left that godforsaken airline. What a bunch of unprofessional hicks.

And the reason the POI would violate the crew is because the PA needs to be available for emergency announcements from the flight crew. A nice inspector would probably excuse the front end crew if they said they didn't know what the jackass FA was doing, but a not-so-nice inspector (the POI isn't the only one who rides in the back and can issue LOIs) wouldn't hesitate to write up the whole crew. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And tacky and unprofessional.
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I can't tell where the music is coming from in the video so I've got to ask...Are you saying pilots are responsible for the actions of flight attendants? Color me confused but if the pilots are busy doing pilot stuff during a critical phase of flight how could a POI legitimize writing the pilots up for the jackassery of flight attendants? What corrective action (in your opinion) should the pilot(s) have taken when they realized what was going on in the back (assuming they were not privy to was going to happen)?
 
Avalon781ML said:
I can't tell where the music is coming from in the video so I've got to ask...Are you saying pilots are responsible for the actions of flight attendants? Color me confused but if the pilots are busy doing pilot stuff during a critical phase of flight how could a POI legitimize writing the pilots up for the jackassery of flight attendants? What corrective action (in your opinion) should the pilot(s) have taken when they realized what was going on in the back (assuming they were not privy to was going to happen)?
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We may not consider it fair, but yes, the captain is responsible for what his crew does. Most inspectors would not write up the flight crew for what the cabin crew does. But again, not all inspectors are so reasonable. The smart move on the part of the flight crew would be to fill out an ASAP.
 
mshunter said:
So I'll ask again. What will the crew up front be violated for, and how exactly was safety compromised?
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This would not be seen as professional at my shop.

Plus I'd be paranoid about people suspecting there are a couple of hotshots trying to relieve their glory days of "cat shots" off an aircraft carrier.

I'll be the fuddy duddy and say "Nah, maybe with the next captain"
 
Derg said:
This would not be seen as professional at my shop.

Plus I'd be paranoid about people suspecting there are a couple of hotshots trying to relieve their glory days of "cat shots" off an aircraft carrier.

I'll be the fuddy duddy and say "Nah, maybe with the next captain"
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Ditto.

"Excuse me, please stop the ride, I would like to get off now. This is not the military and the mission is fundamentally different."
 
Annoying as •, once on the internet. I feel for the crew that has to hear that multiple legs a day possibly for several days.
It confuses me why people that do this for a career get so excited about the idea/chance of being less professional. You want to be treated, paid, respected as a professional....be one.
 
Derg said:
This would not be seen as professional at my shop.

Plus I'd be paranoid about people suspecting there are a couple of hotshots trying to relieve their glory days of "cat shots" off an aircraft carrier.

I'll be the fuddy duddy and say "Nah, maybe with the next captain"
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I'd probably do the exact same thing—I'm very conservative, as a general rule—but that doesn't mean I think there's anything notable or wrong here.

-Fox
 
I think the concept of what is or is not professional seems to be a little too-closely related to the concept of what the writer does or does not like.

But hey, I know nothin'. I wanted to kick a passenger off my plane today for trying to tell me what route to take in a nasty, rude way. But instead I didn't. That's the extent of my professionalism at this very moment, I'm afraid.

-Fox
 
Well, as an OLD consumer, I'm not interested in this, and would be hugely disconcerted, were it a flight for which I paid.

I have no knowledge of POIs or FOMs, but this is, to me, unprofessional in the extreme. I clearly don't fall anywhere close to the Southwest marketing demographic.

I personally look for pleasant/friendly, polite and professional, and spend my dollars accordingly. This, to me, represents none of those qualities. Of course, I am old and your mileage may vary tremendously.
 
Avalon781ML said:
I can't tell where the music is coming from in the video so I've got to ask...Are you saying pilots are responsible for the actions of flight attendants? Color me confused but if the pilots are busy doing pilot stuff during a critical phase of flight how could a POI legitimize writing the pilots up for the jackassery of flight attendants? What corrective action (in your opinion) should the pilot(s) have taken when they realized what was going on in the back (assuming they were not privy to was going to happen)?
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When you sign for the jet, you're signing for the entire jet.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Coming from him? You mean one of the most respected posters here who also comes out to NJC every year? When did you last show your face there? Ever?
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Geez. Now I have to go to one of your frat parties to be taken seriously?
 
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