fholbert
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Note to self: I got to remember that one!
Superstitions (PHX) Plane Crash
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Note to self: I got to remember that one!
z987k
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Those look like garrett's to me. The N-number 690 is also referring to it being an AC690.
ferguson354
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Anyone know if he was VFR or IFR? Perhaps he was just climbing out from under the Class B shelf and thought he was over Canyon Lake?
dc3flyer
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Pretty sure he was VFR. It took a while to even figure out who (plane) it may be because ATC wasn't aware of anyone.
fholbert
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I looked that night. No IFR flight plans for that model or tail number from either airport that night.
Shiner
El Capitan
Thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families. Any tragedy is difficult, but it is heartbreaking that this happened over the holidays.
The procedures being referred to are done over familiar terrain, however they are done at night so you'd better maintain your SA. Stay on the arc and you're fine, wander 4 nm to the east and you're a statistic. I'd say 4 nm is a safe margin for an arc. The procedures are done for training purposes and are safe if done correctly.
The procedures being referred to are done over familiar terrain, however they are done at night so you'd better maintain your SA. Stay on the arc and you're fine, wander 4 nm to the east and you're a statistic. I'd say 4 nm is a safe margin for an arc. The procedures are done for training purposes and are safe if done correctly.
Okie_Pilot
Pitts Builder
My wings are made of wood...
As a matter of fact, the METAL leading edges were taken OFF and replaced with........ wood.
Inverted25
Well-Known Member
Wood leading edges provides more flexibility correct?
CirrusMonkey
No Real Usefulness
My thoughts exactly. It's a horrible story regardless but even more so that it happened on thanksgiving.
Okie_Pilot
Pitts Builder
Exactly the opposite. Wood is very stiff and structurally sound. Aluminum leading edges will flex and change the aerodynamics of the wing as opposed to wood leading edges.
Apparently the pilot worked for Delta, not sure in what capacity, and the mother of the children is a Delta flight attendant.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Family--134474233.html
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Family--134474233.html
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
No Perry with a first name starting with an S is on the SL. I got from the article the mother worked here, but nothing about him. Either way you cut it, it's a sad story. Freaked my wife out. The local news was hyping the story at home. "Plane crashes in PHX! Tune in at 11pm!" The problem was, it was around 9pm and there was little else on it. All she knew was I was laying over there.
Logically, if it'd been an airliner that pranged in in PHX, there would've been no "Tune in at 11". It would've cut into whatever programming was going on at the time on every local station, and more.
CFI A&P
Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
Also, the wood leading edges flex at a rate close to or equally as the wood wing structure. As well as the metal leading edges have seams at the center section. When the wing flexes, the metal cuts away at the fabric. Which is why you'll notice seam repairs on the seams at the center section.
Very good point you make there.....
Nigel Croker
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One of the articles I read said the mother of the children was a pilot also. Can anyone confirm this, couple of stories I have read have conflicting info...not that this is in itself odd.