Super King Air nose gear failure at PWA

Crop Duster said:
Ever been in a taildragger that nosed over? It's even odder. ;) (for the record, I was there, but not flying)
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My experience was in an Arrow (PA28R). The attitude itself didn't bother me, since I've spent a considerable time flying inverted and maneuvering but just not with a low level waiver. The combination of the attitude and altitude was interesting.

Haven't been in something when it went over, but I have witnessed a nose over. It sucked for the owner, a former student of mine & his freshly restored Super Cub.
 
CFI A&P said:
My experience was in an Arrow (PA28R). The attitude itself didn't bother me, since I've spent a considerable time flying inverted and maneuvering but just not with a low level waiver. The combination of the attitude and altitude was interesting.

Haven't been in something when it went over, but I have witnessed a nose over. It sucked for the owner, a former student of mine & his freshly restored Super Cub.
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Saw a 170 land with the brakes locked once, it went over on its back.

It sounded like a metal trash can falling over.

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Ajax said:
Not a rhetorical, but has there been a documented issue with a spinning prop causing injury to the crew or pax when hitting the ground in a gear up or situation like this? I legitimately don't know. I keep hearing people concerned about it but it seems a lot like they might be more concerned with the props/engines.
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Not exactly the same situation but a few years ago SAS had that rash of main landing gears not extending on Dash 8 Q400s. One instance they fortunately didn't have that many pax so they moved to unoccupied seats away from the prop arc. Well the prop separated and a lot of shrapnel went into the cabin. Don't think they had shut it down prior to having the wing drop. Luckily nobody got hurt!

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Ajax said:
Was that change after 1446 rounds about or am I way off?

Edit: Lol, I was way off. 1192 herp derp. Mah bad. Didn't realize I had my books in the house and took a wild guess.
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Also does anyone actually cal it a Super King Air? Everybody I know just uses the numerical designation.
 
Itchy said:
He could have shut down the engines. But meh. Smash all you want, they make more (almost) every day.
But seriously, why not on short final pull the conditions and props?
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Maybe because the B200 drops like a rock when you chop the power. You land with about 200ftlbs of Torque on each side.
 
milleR said:
Or you could buy a real airplane for half the price :D
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I would fly it, hell I'd fly almost anything though...for the fun of it, really.

How does the MU fly? I've heard both horror and love stories about it but no personal experience.
 
Itchy said:
I'm really saying on short final I would have snuffed the fires. I'm assuming that is a decently long runway, and just in the interest in personal safety, would have snuffed the fires and electrics. Certainly the pilot had plenty of time to brief. On the other hand, these things rarely turn out badly. I dunno. My gut says snuff the fires, turn off the electrics/pumps etc before grinding off paint.
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Run the checklist.
Why potentially create another emergency while there is already one to deal with.
Decide to go around?
 
Ajax said:
I would fly it, hell I'd fly almost anything though...for the fun of it, really.

How does the MU fly? I've heard both horror and love stories about it but no personal experience.
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It's different. The Beech is far and away a better handling airplane but the mits makes you feel like you've earned something.
 
Roger Roger said:
Also does anyone actually cal it a Super King Air? Everybody I know just uses the numerical designation.
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A controller at our TRACON.


pilotmec said:
Hey now!
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The last 2 instances of a KA landing with a bad gear that I've seen in tv were both FAA planes. I believe one was in OKC and the other was around ATL.


All this Moo-2 talk and no @Boris Badenov ?!? What's this board coming to?
 
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