Sun country TA

[Comair 100ER]

Got this from a friend today. Seems great, but not many details. Anyone have any info? I didn’t even know they were in negotiations.

 

[nibake]

Wrong.

 

[nibake]

Management has pulled out the stops on sleazy moves and publicity stunts over the last couple of days. And this is coming from someone far less pessimistic than the majority of the pilot group. ALPA is pulling out. What the company was putting forth amounted to a garbage offer with really nice shiny pay rates and a boatload of problems, including some regressive things. It's hard to fathom things that could make QOL worse than it already is at this job, yet management has succeeded in clinging to things that would do just that.

 

[jynxyjoe]

Being told Management ran this one aground as a publicity stunt. Sorry if anyone got their hopes up.

 

[Crockrocket94]

Damn, I was hoping it was true to light the fire under ours...

 

[ShortField]

Damn, I was hoping it was true to light the fire under ours...

That was the hope I had for my shop for a hot second as well. Instead it appears to be a “Can you believe the pay rates these greedy pilots turned down!?”

 

[roundout]

That was the hope I had for my shop for a hot second as well. Instead it appears to be a “Can you believe the pay rates these greedy pilots turned down!?”

Never let a good crisis go to waste

 

[ShortField]

Never let a good crisis go to waste

Wait....this sounds familiar. Perhaps our collective management teams have been cahooting.

 

[nibake]

FWIW negotiations are continuing in spite of that little fiasco. Both sides have been working furiously for some time. The union team has been working basically 7 days a week all month on their part. It would be a huge waste to walk away from the effort that has been invested. Here's hoping that talks are productive going forward.

 

[jynxyjoe]

FWIW negotiations are continuing in spite of that little fiasco. Both sides have been working furiously for some time. The union team has been working basically 7 days a week all month on their part. It would be a huge waste to walk away from the effort that has been invested. Here's hoping that talks are productive going forward.

I know one of your union guys on the MEC, he's top 5 union volunteers I've ever met, when he's in charge he runs the hardest working office you've even been in. Very much a results driven X's and O's guy.

If there's a deal there, he'll find it.

 

[jynxyjoe]

FWIW negotiations are continuing in spite of that little fiasco. Both sides have been working furiously for some time. The union team has been working basically 7 days a week all month on their part. It would be a huge waste to walk away from the effort that has been invested. Here's hoping that talks are productive going forward.

Uhmmm... you might have something to look at here in a day. look for a good news email.

 

[nibake]

AIP reached last week. The goal is for a TA this week. Good news but not chicken counting time just yet.

 

[CFIT99]

AIP reached last week. The goal is for a TA this week. Good news but not chicken counting time just yet.

I saw some details yesterday...very optimistic, hope SC gets the deal that they desperately need.

the ULCC/LCC's are watching, F9 opens negotiations in ~18 months

 

[nibake]

TA finalized. Will go to a vote soon and if approved go into effect 1/1.

 

[BobDDuck]

TA finalized. Will go to a vote soon and if approved go into effect 1/1.

Have they made the pay tables for all aircraft available yet?

 

[nibake]

Have they made the pay tables for all aircraft available yet?

Yes, 737 tables here are correct:

Airline Pilot Central Forums - View Single Post - Whats the latest?

Post 3332184 - Airline Pilot Central - The best information portal for active and future airline pilots

www.airlinepilotforums.com

767 CA top rate is 281.87 DOS and 326.55 last day of contract.

330 CA top rate is 302.96 DOS and 350.98 last day of contract.

 

[BobDDuck]

Yes, 737 tables here are correct:

Airline Pilot Central Forums - View Single Post - Whats the latest?

Post 3332184 - Airline Pilot Central - The best information portal for active and future airline pilots

www.airlinepilotforums.com

767 CA top rate is 281.87 DOS and 326.55 last day of contract.

330 CA top rate is 302.96 DOS and 350.98 last day of contract.

Thanks.

 

[CFIscare]

Yes, 737 tables here are correct:

Airline Pilot Central Forums - View Single Post - Whats the latest?

Post 3332184 - Airline Pilot Central - The best information portal for active and future airline pilots

www.airlinepilotforums.com

767 CA top rate is 281.87 DOS and 326.55 last day of contract.

330 CA top rate is 302.96 DOS and 350.98 last day of contract.

Any chance you can share the tables for those who don't have an APC account?

Congrats on the TA, much deserved.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

 

[nibake]

Voting is completed. Results should be out shortly.