Sucker born every minute; Here we go again; Line them up!

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splash said:
Thinking about college? Start here

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/news/0702/gallery.jobs_in_demand/7.html

Fly later when you have the money. Not knocking the guy down here just don't falsify the market.
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These are careers, some of which may not match up with any one specific degree. I say study what you're passionate about - you'll accomplish more that way and opportunities will open themselves to you. Except for Aviation, that degree sucks :)
 
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pullup said:
What happened at Airman?
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Unbeknownst to me they hit my Key loan up for an additional $20k (ish) and then shut the doors.

Key said "screw you" since I had signed the loan paperwork...even though I didn't sign or approve the additional $20k. They said one signature was good enough for any and all disbursements. None of that made any sense to me.

They were enrolling students up to the last day. Brenda Keene was in charge of doing the enrollments at the time and was signing people up for ground school classes later that week.

Instructors weren't paid, planes were taken back to Christiansen (...he's another thread entirely), doors were chained after instructors got to clear their lockers and that was that. Students came in from outside the country only to sign over the money/sign the contract and then be told "we're closed".

It sucked, but that's the gamble you take when you sign over thousands of dollars up front. If I had it to do all over again, I'd go but only as a "pay as you go" student. I met too many great people out there to say I wouldn't do it again.

-mini
 
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Fraud is not "just a risk you take". If, as sounds obvious, the operators of the school were aware that they had no reasonable expectation of providing the services for which they were being paid, their conduct is easily actionable, at least civilly. Now, I'm sure you wouldn't recover anything, but suggesting that being defrauded is just how it goes lets the perpetrators off a little lightly, don't you think?
 
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Boris Badenov said:
Fraud is not "just a risk you take". If, as sounds obvious, the operators of the school were aware that they had no reasonable expectation of providing the services for which they were being paid, their conduct is easily actionable, at least civilly. Now, I'm sure you wouldn't recover anything, but suggesting that being defrauded is just how it goes lets the perpetrators off a little lightly, don't you think?
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on the original post, more power to him, he is opening a flight school and even was smart enough to get a blurb on the smart brief, and a thread on JC (even if that was unintentional) :) Good luck to him.
 
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minitour said:
Unbeknownst to me they hit my Key loan up for an additional $20k (ish) and then shut the doors.

Key said "screw you" since I had signed the loan paperwork...even though I didn't sign or approve the additional $20k. They said one signature was good enough for any and all disbursements. None of that made any sense to me.

They were enrolling students up to the last day. Brenda Keene was in charge of doing the enrollments at the time and was signing people up for ground school classes later that week.

Instructors weren't paid, planes were taken back to Christiansen (...he's another thread entirely), doors were chained after instructors got to clear their lockers and that was that. Students came in from outside the country only to sign over the money/sign the contract and then be told "we're closed".

It sucked, but that's the gamble you take when you sign over thousands of dollars up front. If I had it to do all over again, I'd go but only as a "pay as you go" student. I met too many great people out there to say I wouldn't do it again.

-mini
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OUCH!
 
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Boris Badenov said:
Fraud is not "just a risk you take". If, as sounds obvious, the operators of the school were aware that they had no reasonable expectation of providing the services for which they were being paid, their conduct is easily actionable, at least civilly. Now, I'm sure you wouldn't recover anything, but suggesting that being defrauded is just how it goes lets the perpetrators off a little lightly, don't you think?
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Unless they skip the country and no one can find them. Speaking of that.....what ever happened to the guys that ran Airline Training Academy?
 
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