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Nah, I just hate people in general
Stupid noisy airplanes!
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A150K
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:yeahthat:Nah, I just hate people in general
Murdoughnut
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Nah, I just hate people in general
Join the club - it's called "white, middle-class, non-mormon, 30-something male"
ferguson354
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:yeahthat:
This seems to be the problem between KOSU and Worthington, OH. Last I heard the noise complaints are still a problem here at OSU but I haven't kept up with it in years.
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hey mang I might have a receding hairline but I'm still in my 20s!Join the club - it's called "white, middle-class, non-mormon, 30-something male"
Okie_Pilot
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Nah, I just hate people in general
:beer:
phoenix 23684
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In Daytona (DAB) there was a constant complainer that lived below the downwind to the smaller runway. He would call on a weekly basis and the airports solution, simple. They gave him a job at the airport, he never complained again.
And to add to this, the people at Ormond, New Smyrna, and Massey and go "f" themselves.....especially new Smyrna. You don't know how many times I wish I had a G-II to do pattern work or late-night run-ups with.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Strangely enough, the only two noise complaints that I've personally caused (that I know about) were well away from the airport. One was when I was an instructor in AZ...apparently I was scaring chickens from 5000' AGL. The other one (more recently) was due to company aircraft climbing out over a middle school about 10 miles south of the field.
Not sure what the solution is, but I started keeping takeoff power in until higher in a steeper climb for my early morning departures. No complaints from the neighbors yet.
Not sure what the solution is, but I started keeping takeoff power in until higher in a steeper climb for my early morning departures. No complaints from the neighbors yet.
beasly
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saxman
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I use to work in the Noise Compatibility Department at DFW. Pretty much I studied noise around the airport. We published noise data for all areas around the airport to give out to the communities. Obviously those areas right under the approach/departure paths of runways.
Think of it from a resident perspective. We're pilots so we think about this. But pretend you're not for a minute, and think about how you decide for a place to live. Do you think about aircraft noise? Are you looking at a house long enough to know how the noise is or even realize its there? Nope. That's probably the last thing on your mind.
Also think about the fact, that if no one complains, things won't get better. We always had those regulars that called and complained all the time. I remember reading his complaint and he said "these pilot need to proper flight path and not cut the approach short." Well it was our job to explain how approaches work. It eventually led to RNAV procedures. It's why we have noise abatement procedures. It's why engines have become quieter over the years.
Yes, there's those idiots that constantly complain, but think of it more as keeping track of a trend of how we're doing. Over the years, complaints have actually dropped, meaning we're doing a good job.
Think of it from a resident perspective. We're pilots so we think about this. But pretend you're not for a minute, and think about how you decide for a place to live. Do you think about aircraft noise? Are you looking at a house long enough to know how the noise is or even realize its there? Nope. That's probably the last thing on your mind.
Also think about the fact, that if no one complains, things won't get better. We always had those regulars that called and complained all the time. I remember reading his complaint and he said "these pilot need to proper flight path and not cut the approach short." Well it was our job to explain how approaches work. It eventually led to RNAV procedures. It's why we have noise abatement procedures. It's why engines have become quieter over the years.
Yes, there's those idiots that constantly complain, but think of it more as keeping track of a trend of how we're doing. Over the years, complaints have actually dropped, meaning we're doing a good job.
beasly
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I use to work in the Noise Compatibility Department at DFW. Pretty much I studied noise around the airport. ....
What about the other human senses? Can I get a government grant? As an aspiring anthropology major, I am very interested in studying the social habits of female flight attendants--even the noisy ones (earplugs are gov't issue, right?)
Then, after a long arduous night of work at the Flight Attendant Compatibility Department Hands on Workshop, all parties involved will be interested in the Gustatory Compatibility Department--after all, after a long, arduous, noisy night of study, the true professional is naturally drawn to the woeful state of aviation's Gustatory Compatibility!
trafficinsight
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I use to work in the Noise Compatibility Department at DFW. Pretty much I studied noise around the airport. We published noise data for all areas around the airport to give out to the communities. Obviously those areas right under the approach/departure paths of runways.
Think of it from a resident perspective. We're pilots so we think about this. But pretend you're not for a minute, and think about how you decide for a place to live. Do you think about aircraft noise? Are you looking at a house long enough to know how the noise is or even realize its there? Nope. That's probably the last thing on your mind.
Also think about the fact, that if no one complains, things won't get better. We always had those regulars that called and complained all the time. I remember reading his complaint and he said "these pilot need to proper flight path and not cut the approach short." Well it was our job to explain how approaches work. It eventually led to RNAV procedures. It's why we have noise abatement procedures. It's why engines have become quieter over the years.
Yes, there's those idiots that constantly complain, but think of it more as keeping track of a trend of how we're doing. Over the years, complaints have actually dropped, meaning we're doing a good job.
I don't know how it is there but here you have to sign that you've seen a disclosure that says "hey, there is an airport nearby, airports mean airplanes and airplanes mean airplane noise... don't say we didn't warn you"
rd757
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I interned in the office over there for a semester back in high school and I dealt with those noise complaints. There's a very small group of people (WOOSE) that enjoy complaining about noise. We then had to correlate the complaints with radar tracks from CMH TRACON, and about 50% of the time, the plane never existed, or it was a MedFlight helo (seriously, people? I hope they leave you there on the side of the road to wait for an ambulance next time you need medevac'd).
I dislike those people with a passion and I wish I could have 5min of time on a mic during one their "meetings". I'll tell them what I think about their complains and their choice to move into the neighborhood off the of the runway.
Idiots.
And yes, I'd say 95% of the complaints were from one guy, who, imagine this, had nothing better to do. Also some lady loved to complain a lot about the 172's "shaking her walls"... :rotfl:
trafficinsight
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Same here, "Mr. B" on the East Side calls, on average, 15 times day. Many of the times he's called there is no traffic even remotely in the area. "Mr. B" has a website full of vitriol for the airport.
My favorite noise complaint record was of a lady who claimed that helicopters were circling her house and watching her shower. Couldn't be verified, of course.
Oh yeah I forgot: "Mr. B" claims that lead from avgas causes crime and low test scores in the neighborhoods and schools around the airport.
HeyEng
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Frankfurt was the worst. Crazy quiet hours and some big 'ole fines for exceeding decibel levels. It got so bad for a while that the Germans would print out the flight path and the AF would plaster the offending aircraft commander's name on it and hang it in base ops. There was even talk for a while of taking UCMJ action for those AC's that violated the decibel levels. Has everyone here ever heard how much noise the C-5 makes while climbing out at Max gross?
I have never known of a community that had decibel reading devices planted all over hell's half acre trying to find violators. Just sad.
I have never known of a community that had decibel reading devices planted all over hell's half acre trying to find violators. Just sad.
HeyEng
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Here is one for you...she is FAMOUS in San Antonio...
http://www.youtube.com/user/theninthtrust#p/u/3/-vc-MJF1nTg
I have "heard" that the good helicopter guys from SAPD do in fact like to "patrol that area"...but I can't reveal my source...
trafficinsight
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The place I used to work was right in line with the final to 32 at Moffett... the sound of a C-5 is CRAZY AWESOME.
MaLsR1586
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Here is one for you...she is FAMOUS in San Antonio...
http://www.youtube.com/user/theninthtrust#p/u/3/-vc-MJF1nTg
I have "heard" that the good helicopter guys from SAPD do in fact like to "patrol that area"...but I can't reveal my source...
I find it interesting that in the notes of the video that pops up first, she attributes a completely unrelated accidental death of one her neighbors on the "noise".
C-5's kick ass. I lived near Andrews for half of my life and hearing the sound of them never brought me the type of heartache/headache this lady experiences.
Can we say: Addicted to attention?